International draft and amauter draft

AirmenSmith · 02-07-2019, 01:03 PM

1. Is there any benefit to leaving international players off a minor league team when discovered?

2. There is an option in settings that states you can come to an agreement with a draft player before the draft. If this is true how do you do it?

NoOne · 02-07-2019, 02:59 PM

save time: Maybe....

longer answer: lol....

if too young, i think it hurts them to move them to Rookie. ~16 and not turning 17 anytime soon and i often see their potential drop.

if they are junk, i simply don't care. i move them as needed to fill holes in rookie lineup.

fwiw, i turn down random talent changes 100->50... maybe even as low as 25, now, i can't recall my last choice. the fact i see potential drop (sans inaccuracy) with just a few 16 year olds i've moved over recently and in the past makes me wonder that it's a higher rate of occurence due to age (another thread in last year made me revisit this and try again with similar conlculsions).

i prefer 17+, and hopefully they are turning 18 that year, preferably. i use service time rules, so that's also a factor. i won't wait more than 1 year to move them, 99.99% of the time, because i only allow 2 years at rookie. i have the rules that keep the international complexes turning over quickly. you don't see max # in my complexes per team nor many ~20 year olds there in my leagues. otherwise my service rules would make them instant releases most of the time. can't play at a-ball etc...

i think moving younger players up too fast has a similar effect too, but could be wrong on that... i always push, even if young. if i push and they perform wretchedly and coinciding with stagnating development, i see TCR drops more often... but again, the increased focus of attention on such a limited context can confuse easily.

i recently was pushing 2 young players. ~19 or so. one kept performing and improving and is ~19 in AAA and progressing fine. the other started to stall in performance and development after moving to AA @ ~18-19 and his potential dropped within a couple months of moving to AA. i tend to see this when i push younger kids to AA/AAA - a loss of potential not related to accuracy. if i see any wavering, i typically demote back down, and i see this less often than in the past before i added that wrinkle. the development rate is more likely the key than the results, if this is a real factor and not some figment in my head.

i test these things every once in a while, just like my choices on when to move them over. as stated above, i trie dmoving over several guys withotu concern about yougner ages and got similar results as i saw in past. i've recently ignored the demotion wrinkle for younger players at higher levels and again a player is losing potential... could be luck, of course, but it seems to bite me more often when i don't do it carefully -- young promotions at AA/AAA or too young for Rookie to move from comlpex.

NoOne · 02-07-2019, 03:00 PM

save time: Maybe....

longer answer: lol....

if too young, i think it hurts them to move them to Rookie. ~16 and not turning 17 anytime soon and i often see their potential drop.

if they are junk, i simply don't care. i move them as needed to fill holes in rookie lineup.

fwiw, i turn down random talent changes 100->50... maybe even as low as 25, now, i can't recall my last choice. the fact i see potential drop (sans inaccuracy) with just a few 16 year olds i've moved over recently and in the past makes me wonder that it's a higher rate of occurence due to age (another thread in last year made me revisit this and try again with similar conlculsions).

i prefer 17+, and hopefully they are turning 18 that year, preferably. i use service time rules, so that's also a factor. i won't wait more than 1 year to move them, 99.99% of the time, because i only allow 2 years at rookie. i have the rules that keep the international complexes turning over quickly. you don't see max # in my complexes per team nor many ~20 year olds there in my leagues. otherwise my service rules would make them instant releases most of the time. can't play at a-ball etc...

i think moving younger players up too fast has a similar effect too, but could be wrong on that... i always push, even if young. if i push and they perform wretchedly and coinciding with stagnating development, i see TCR drops more often... but again, the increased focus of attention on such a limited context can confuse easily.

i recently was pushing 2 young players. ~19 or so. one kept performing and improving and is ~19 in AAA and progressing fine. the other started to stall in performance and development after moving to AA @ ~18-19 and his potential dropped within a couple months of moving to AA. i tend to see this when i push younger kids to AA/AAA - a loss of potential not related to accuracy. if i see any wavering, i typically demote back down, and i see this less often than in the past before i added that wrinkle. the development rate is more likely the key than the results, if this is a real factor and not some figment in my head.

i test these things every once in a while, just like my choices on when to move them over. as stated above, i trie dmoving over several guys withotu concern about yougner ages and got similar results as i saw in past. i've recently ignored the demotion wrinkle for younger players at higher levels and again a player is losing potential... could be luck, of course, but it seems to bite me more often when i don't do it carefully -- young promotions at AA/AAA or too young for Rookie to move from comlpex.

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02-07-2019, 02:59 PM	#2
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	save time: Maybe.... longer answer: lol.... if too young, i think it hurts them to move them to Rookie. ~16 and not turning 17 anytime soon and i often see their potential drop. if they are junk, i simply don't care. i move them as needed to fill holes in rookie lineup. fwiw, i turn down random talent changes 100->50... maybe even as low as 25, now, i can't recall my last choice. the fact i see potential drop (sans inaccuracy) with just a few 16 year olds i've moved over recently and in the past makes me wonder that it's a higher rate of occurence due to age (another thread in last year made me revisit this and try again with similar conlculsions). i prefer 17+, and hopefully they are turning 18 that year, preferably. i use service time rules, so that's also a factor. i won't wait more than 1 year to move them, 99.99% of the time, because i only allow 2 years at rookie. i have the rules that keep the international complexes turning over quickly. you don't see max # in my complexes per team nor many ~20 year olds there in my leagues. otherwise my service rules would make them instant releases most of the time. can't play at a-ball etc... i think moving younger players up too fast has a similar effect too, but could be wrong on that... i always push, even if young. if i push and they perform wretchedly and coinciding with stagnating development, i see TCR drops more often... but again, the increased focus of attention on such a limited context can confuse easily. i recently was pushing 2 young players. ~19 or so. one kept performing and improving and is ~19 in AAA and progressing fine. the other started to stall in performance and development after moving to AA @ ~18-19 and his potential dropped within a couple months of moving to AA. i tend to see this when i push younger kids to AA/AAA - a loss of potential not related to accuracy. if i see any wavering, i typically demote back down, and i see this less often than in the past before i added that wrinkle. the development rate is more likely the key than the results, if this is a real factor and not some figment in my head. i test these things every once in a while, just like my choices on when to move them over. as stated above, i trie dmoving over several guys withotu concern about yougner ages and got similar results as i saw in past. i've recently ignored the demotion wrinkle for younger players at higher levels and again a player is losing potential... could be luck, of course, but it seems to bite me more often when i don't do it carefully -- young promotions at AA/AAA or too young for Rookie to move from comlpex.

02-07-2019, 03:00 PM	#3
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	save time: Maybe.... longer answer: lol.... if too young, i think it hurts them to move them to Rookie. ~16 and not turning 17 anytime soon and i often see their potential drop. if they are junk, i simply don't care. i move them as needed to fill holes in rookie lineup. fwiw, i turn down random talent changes 100->50... maybe even as low as 25, now, i can't recall my last choice. the fact i see potential drop (sans inaccuracy) with just a few 16 year olds i've moved over recently and in the past makes me wonder that it's a higher rate of occurence due to age (another thread in last year made me revisit this and try again with similar conlculsions). i prefer 17+, and hopefully they are turning 18 that year, preferably. i use service time rules, so that's also a factor. i won't wait more than 1 year to move them, 99.99% of the time, because i only allow 2 years at rookie. i have the rules that keep the international complexes turning over quickly. you don't see max # in my complexes per team nor many ~20 year olds there in my leagues. otherwise my service rules would make them instant releases most of the time. can't play at a-ball etc... i think moving younger players up too fast has a similar effect too, but could be wrong on that... i always push, even if young. if i push and they perform wretchedly and coinciding with stagnating development, i see TCR drops more often... but again, the increased focus of attention on such a limited context can confuse easily. i recently was pushing 2 young players. ~19 or so. one kept performing and improving and is ~19 in AAA and progressing fine. the other started to stall in performance and development after moving to AA @ ~18-19 and his potential dropped within a couple months of moving to AA. i tend to see this when i push younger kids to AA/AAA - a loss of potential not related to accuracy. if i see any wavering, i typically demote back down, and i see this less often than in the past before i added that wrinkle. the development rate is more likely the key than the results, if this is a real factor and not some figment in my head. i test these things every once in a while, just like my choices on when to move them over. as stated above, i trie dmoving over several guys withotu concern about yougner ages and got similar results as i saw in past. i've recently ignored the demotion wrinkle for younger players at higher levels and again a player is losing potential... could be luck, of course, but it seems to bite me more often when i don't do it carefully -- young promotions at AA/AAA or too young for Rookie to move from comlpex.