Card Circulation from Abandoned Teams

[gemini615]

Eventually teams will be abandoned, but how will rare cards be recirculated? Let's say there's a Bob Feller out there stuck on an abandoned team. I'd like to collect that card but since there's very few in existence, how will I be able to obtain it? Devs deleting inactive accounts? Just being curious. Good luck with your launch tomorrow!

[joehart]

I must have missed it but I never heard that certain cards will be removed from circulation (not included in packs anymore) after a certain number of them have been distributed.

If there is such a feature to limit the circulation of certain cards in the PT universe, it would be important to see which cards have been eliminated.

I don't believe account deletion makes sense given the yearly release cycle of OOTP. Busy people may not find time to play for many month.

However, it may make sense for the DEV team to remove accounts once many of us have upgraded to future versions of OOTP and it becomes an unnecessary cost for the company/servers to handle accounts that have not been touched in years.

[Kangostar]

I highly doubt this will happen. What company would do that to its customers?

So say I spend $100 hell $20 even and then I buy packs and pull a Babe Ruth. Now my account goes idle for whatever reason for lets say six months you get to repo my Babe Ruth card like I missed a payment?

I'm sure they'll just stop placing you in leagues once you hit that limit. But take your cards.....nah say 6 months and 1 day I want to play again and realize my cards are gone now im UPSET

[Orcin]

Interesting topic.

I am sure that abandoned teams have been considered, and the logical answer would be to let them play on. That's what happens in games such as Clash of Clans. I don't think any consideration has been given to letting you get their Feller though.

[Kangostar]

I know for a fact that if Fortnite, Clash of Clans or basically any game just started clearing inactive accounts (where money was ever involved) there would be crazy lawsuits.

If the server is still running the game, and my account did not break TOS it should be active, maybe in a hibernation mode but I can still log into it and use if I want. I haven't played clash in years but I would fell some type of way if all of a sudden my max TH9 just went poof

[NYY #23]

I hope the intent is to let them play on. There are no injuries, or aging, or ability to not field a full roster. You could build a solid team, walk away for a couple months and they could compete. If others keep building better teams your team will drop to lower leagues.

I certainly wouldn't want my team inactivated if I got busy for a couple of months. Coming back to a nice PP bank would be fun.

Whether inactive or active, don't think there should be any expectation someone has to sell a card or not. Seems like however rare the card is there would still be a chance for others to appear in packs though.

[Orcin]

If you try to play PT right now, you will see a message at the top of the PT half of the start screen:

YOUR TEAM IS CURRENTLY INACTIVE.
Please click on "Play Perfect Team" to enter the Perfect Team area. You can then re-activate your team in the settings screen (main menu).


So it sounds like there may be a plan to make your team go dormant after some period of inactivity. I assume that it would stay intact but maybe not earn PP during this dormant period.

THIS IS 100% SPECULATION on my part. I know nothing! Just guessing!

[One Post Wonder]

The cards had better be left alone.

If I acquired a Bob Feller - and especially if I'd bought pp points in order to do so, then that card should be mine to do with as I please as long as the game is active. And 'as I please' might very well include 'nothing'.

[Dogberry99]

I still don't understand why cards, rare or otherwise, would possibly need to be recirculated. Are there universal card limitations that I've missed?

Additionally, does anyone know if all cards in the AH belong to players, or does the game put up random cards for auction itself to ensure a certain amount of volume?

[mikezone13]

Originally Posted by Dogberry99

Additionally, does anyone know if all cards in the AH belong to players, or does the game put up random cards for auction itself to ensure a certain amount of volume?

I had posed this question before too, don't believe I ever got an answer. I do hope that the AH only includes cards from real players.

In terms of the odds of a card being in distribution I imagine there would be no hard limit or cap on how many times it can occur, but the odds of it occurring during a pack pull would be predetermined for the level of card it is.

It's pretty clear that 2018 Live cards are much more common in any card level (other than perfect) than other card types and I also imagine that certain individual cards within each card tier are also more common.

So my take/opinion/whatever is that each individual card has it's own probability rating of being pulled when a certain level of card is pulled, so while there isn't a cap, the statistical probability odds create a statistical 'cap' of the existence of each card based on the total number of cards in circulation across the universe - i.e. the more PT players the more Babe Ruth perfects that there will be.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by Orcin

Interesting topic.

I am sure that abandoned teams have been considered, and the logical answer would be to let them play on. That's what happens in games such as Clash of Clans. I don't think any consideration has been given to letting you get their Feller though.

Abandoned teams will not be deleted, they continue to play on. You never know, the user may decide to come back one day

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by Dogberry99

Additionally, does anyone know if all cards in the AH belong to players, or does the game put up random cards for auction itself to ensure a certain amount of volume?

All cards in the AH belong to users. Why in the world should we handle it any other way?

[Westheim]

So if I were to slip on a banana peel, break both arms, and just because I can't play for six weeks with the monstrous casts and all, the OP want to take away my Bob Feller? What a cruel attitude towards his fellow humans! You want my Bob Feller, you come and try to take him from me like a man...!

[Echo127]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Abandoned teams will not be deleted, they continue to play on. You never know, the user may decide to come back one day

I'd suggest that if someone doesnt tune in for a full season or two or three that they get kicked to an entry league pool until they check back in. That way you're only competing with active users, while the dormant ones are still earning PP for whenever they return.

[NYY #23]

Originally Posted by Echo127

I'd suggest that if someone doesnt tune in for a full season or two or three that they get kicked to an entry league pool until they check back in. That way you're only competing with active users, while the dormant ones are still earning PP for whenever they return.

Why? Life gets in the way sometimes, people take vacations, etc. If you leave your team in well enough position to compete and not get relegated why would you be kicked back to the beginning?

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by Westheim

So if I were to slip on a banana peel, break both arms, and just because I can't play for six weeks with the monstrous casts and all, the OP want to take away my Bob Feller? What a cruel attitude towards his fellow humans! You want my Bob Feller, you come and try to take him from me like a man...!

Yeah, I can't see us ever take away players from a team. I would guess at some point we may end up with an "inactive" list, where we stop putting your team in leagues until you sign in again, for example. But definitely there's no reason to steal cards.

[Echo127]

Originally Posted by NYY #23

Why? Life gets in the way sometimes, people take vacations, etc. If you leave your team in well enough position to compete and not get relegated why would you be kicked back to the beginning?

I forgot about relegation. I guess you wouldnt want to kick anyone then.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by NYY #23

Why? Life gets in the way sometimes, people take vacations, etc. If you leave your team in well enough position to compete and not get relegated why would you be kicked back to the beginning?

It's more so that we don't have an entire league of teams that haven't logged in for months. It may not be a problem, but it's something we may need to think about, especially once OOTP 20 comes out and some people stop playing with their OOTP19 perfect team. Would suck to be in a league where the other 29 teams haven't logged in in the last 6 months.

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It's more so that we don't have an entire league of teams that haven't logged in for months. It may not be a problem, but it's something we may need to think about, especially once OOTP 20 comes out and some people stop playing with their OOTP19 perfect team. Would suck to be in a league where the other 29 teams haven't logged in in the last 6 months.

When OOTP 20 comes out I will be guilty of forgetting this universe at least in some capacity. Since I have started playing a couple years before I found my way to the website to look at mods, I have been pleased with each new edition. In solo I have never looked back at my older editions.I may some with this, I just cannot say this early. I was getting attached to my Beta team and sure I will for my new team now.

[NYY #23]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It's more so that we don't have an entire league of teams that haven't logged in for months. It may not be a problem, but it's something we may need to think about, especially once OOTP 20 comes out and some people stop playing with their OOTP19 perfect team. Would suck to be in a league where the other 29 teams haven't logged in in the last 6 months.

Sure, there is a reasonable period of time where that may happen, and that makes sense, especially after the next version comes out. 2-3 weeks just seems extreme.