Flesh out the Ballpark effects, big time.

One Post Wonder · 11-26-2018, 08:46 PM

One thing that has been terribly exposed by PT beta play is that OOTP ballpark effects are not handled in a realistic fashion.

For example, I'm not sure that setting left-handed batting and HR effects both to .800 is even physically possible. If you move the fences out, you're going to increase the space in RF and increase the chances of getting a hit.

Also this does not take the type of hitter into account. If you make adjustments to your right field wall, this would affect a left handed pull hitter quite a bit, a normal LH hitter slightly, and probably not affect a spray LH hitter at all.

Wind seems to have too little influence (at least based on my relatively small observations)

I think what should be done is:

Remove the option to change a ballpark for L/R hitters entirely. Instead, have dimensions, and allow those to be changed. Until the season starts, you really won't be sure how much statistics will be affected by the changes just like IRL.

Instead of changes affecting LH and RH batters, have it affect individual balls that are hit in the direction of the change. That is, if you change the right field dimensions, let that affect balls hit to RF no matter whether the batter is right or left handed.

Provide more options. Other options that you'd have when adjusting/maintaining a ballpark would be:

Batter visibility - Influences contact and strikeouts.
Foul ground size - More or less outs made on foul balls.
Grass length - Affects speed of ground balls, also a big influence on bunts.
Infield Material - Firm ground makes it easier to steal bases.

It would also be nice to give GM's the option of making adjustments to their field within the game itself as opposed to going into commish mode. It would cost money, of course, but a real GM would have the leeway to make changes like this.

pgjocki · 11-26-2018, 09:14 PM

I just want all the parks the same for PT and do away with any options for manipulation.

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One Post Wonder · 11-26-2018, 09:46 PM

That's viable for PT, but this would also affect solo leagues which could use such a change.

I think no-one gave much thought to ballpark effects until the PT exploiting started.

Sharkn20 · 11-27-2018, 04:10 AM

I like Park Factors

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One Post Wonder · 11-27-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharkn20

I like Park Factors

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Park factors would still exist, except it would be handled much more realistically than it is now.

Sharkn20 · 11-27-2018, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by One Post Wonder

Park factors would still exist, except it would be handled much more realistically than it is now.

I think now is quite good as it is.

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Fyrestorm3 · 11-28-2018, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by One Post Wonder

Instead of changes affecting LH and RH batters, have it affect individual balls that are hit in the direction of the change. That is, if you change the right field dimensions, let that affect balls hit to RF no matter whether the batter is right or left handed.

I like basically everything about this suggestion, but this right here is big, and it's something that hadn't even occurred to me until just now. It really doesn't make a lot of sense to split it down LH/RH lines - Fenway's Green Monster doesn't only have an effect on righties; lefties who tend to slap the ball to the opposite field should also have their home run numbers reduced by it.

The Game · 11-28-2018, 06:28 PM

Would be nice if wall height played a factor. I tend to play my games in a version of the Baker Bowl.. In other games I have seen the ball bounce off the wall back to the 1B or 2B.

Dark Horse · 11-29-2018, 12:00 AM

This is along with improving graphics are my biggest wishes for this franchise. i grit my teeth and deal with the ballpark factors in my online league. But in my solo leagues i always make all of the ballparks neutral.

i enjoy the background of playing my games in MMP or the Astrodome or visiting some of the other ballparks. But i wish the ballparks actually played a factor.

Here's hoping...

11-26-2018, 08:46 PM	#1
One Post Wonder All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 538	Flesh out the Ballpark effects, big time. One thing that has been terribly exposed by PT beta play is that OOTP ballpark effects are not handled in a realistic fashion. For example, I'm not sure that setting left-handed batting and HR effects both to .800 is even physically possible. If you move the fences out, you're going to increase the space in RF and increase the chances of getting a hit. Also this does not take the type of hitter into account. If you make adjustments to your right field wall, this would affect a left handed pull hitter quite a bit, a normal LH hitter slightly, and probably not affect a spray LH hitter at all. Wind seems to have too little influence (at least based on my relatively small observations) I think what should be done is: Remove the option to change a ballpark for L/R hitters entirely. Instead, have dimensions, and allow those to be changed. Until the season starts, you really won't be sure how much statistics will be affected by the changes just like IRL. Instead of changes affecting LH and RH batters, have it affect individual balls that are hit in the direction of the change. That is, if you change the right field dimensions, let that affect balls hit to RF no matter whether the batter is right or left handed. Provide more options. Other options that you'd have when adjusting/maintaining a ballpark would be: Batter visibility - Influences contact and strikeouts. Foul ground size - More or less outs made on foul balls. Grass length - Affects speed of ground balls, also a big influence on bunts. Infield Material - Firm ground makes it easier to steal bases. It would also be nice to give GM's the option of making adjustments to their field within the game itself as opposed to going into commish mode. It would cost money, of course, but a real GM would have the leeway to make changes like this.

11-26-2018, 09:14 PM	#2
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11-28-2018, 06:28 PM	#8
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Would be nice if wall height played a factor. I tend to play my games in a version of the Baker Bowl.. In other games I have seen the ball bounce off the wall back to the 1B or 2B. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

11-29-2018, 12:00 AM	#9
Dark Horse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas! Posts: 2,633	This is along with improving graphics are my biggest wishes for this franchise. i grit my teeth and deal with the ballpark factors in my online league. But in my solo leagues i always make all of the ballparks neutral. i enjoy the background of playing my games in MMP or the Astrodome or visiting some of the other ballparks. But i wish the ballparks actually played a factor. Here's hoping... __________________ A Justafan Fan LBA Geo Bahn Rock Hounds fan of the ISLANDIAN PRO ALLIANCE

11-26-2018, 09:46 PM	#3
One Post Wonder All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 538	That's viable for PT, but this would also affect solo leagues which could use such a change. I think no-one gave much thought to ballpark effects until the PT exploiting started.

11-27-2018, 04:10 AM	#4
Sharkn20 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 289	I like Park Factors Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk