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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Indiana
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Buyer Beware
Pack odds have been nerfed.
- Bronze was 1/4 now 1/5 - Silver was 1/8 now 1/10 - Gold was 1/40 now 1/50 - Diamond still 1/100 - Perfect still 1/1000 All odds quoted above are per card. Odds do not reflect mandatory bronze card from regular pack or gold card from premium pack. Odds of getting a common (calculated by including the mandatory card in a pack) have increased from 42% to 50%. Last edited by Orcin; 11-07-2018 at 09:32 AM. Reason: clarified my odds on a common |
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All Star Reserve
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 728
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I spent 1,000PP on one of the most useless packs possible yesterday. I think I am going to spend wisely in the auction house until my team is actually competitive.
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Oregon, not by design
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yep. i've noticed that. my last 3 "regular" packs i bought had nothing but minimum promised. so think i need to change strategy. maybe just try to bid on players to fill the many weaknesses in my roster and hope for the best? pretty obvious my saving 1000 points hasn't helped thus far. and this team is so bad, i'll NEVER get near 5000 to try for a gold pack.
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas
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Edit: Oh, and together they were less than 1000 PP
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All Star Reserve
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 590
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this is good IMO
I'd prefer the game inflation to be even a bit slower. a typical team starting out a season with 23 bronzes and 2 silvers shouldn't end the season with 2 diamonds 8 golds and the rest silvers at the same time, we all do want to see some progression in our teams. no one wants to spend good money and get nothing but commons and a bottom end bronze, so it will be nice balance in between |
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All Star Reserve
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 903
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I wish I would have earned more points to buy more packs before this happened. It definitely seemed like we were seeing some stellar pulls early. This does not seem too extreme though.
If they ever become as barren as MLB: The Shows packs then I think it is safe to say that I will never purchase points to buy them. Points are too precious to spend a 1,000 on pack after pack of common and bronze players |
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Major Leagues
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ormond Beach Fl
Posts: 300
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I have put together a fairly competitive team without a Super duper card... buying a pack here and there etc.. I am only a game out in my division.. This morning I bought 1 regular pack and BAM!.. Freddie Freeman a 91 and 1971 Stargell (48 homers) in same pack... so don't give up hope... Random luck is sooo much fun!.. Plus that gave me leverage to sell a few cards and now I still have about 1500 left in the kitty..
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Minors (Single A)
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 82
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Developer OOTP
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 24,805
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Actually, the odds did not really change (only tiny tweaks), we just ran tests (opening 1,000,000 random packs) and adjusted the stated odds to the results
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Hall Of Famer
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Location: Indiana
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Developer OOTP
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
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Bat Boy
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Minors (Rookie Ball)
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 22
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So...you designed and coded it with intention of 1/4, 1/8, 1/40 but it didn't work out that way? Just curious, have you figured out why this happened? Seems like it would be a very basic implementation of a random number generator.
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All Star Reserve
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 538
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Packs aren't good economics right now. They're just not. And they're going to get worse as more and more cards flood the market.
Anything that isn't a bronze is at the very most a backup or a role player in the lower leagues and worthless on the market. A very good bronze might get you 150 right now and there are some fairly good players among them. But their value will drop too as the game goes on. I think in a month you'd have a tough time getting over the minimum for a bronze card. An average bronze might be worth 60 and I'm being generous. You're not getting more than 1000 for any silver unless you're extremely lucky and have a very, very good card of that type. The odds are against you getting a silver anyway in a regular deck. I'd say an average silver is worth, what, 450? So let's say you have a very lucky draw on a regular deck. Your guaranteed Bronze, then say another Bronze, and then a Silver. That's a great draw, right? But there's no guarantee that those cards will help your team. There's plenty of crappy bronzes and mediocre silver cards. So this hypothetical very lucky deck gives you 3*5 for the useless cards, 120 for the bronze, and 450 for the silver which is 585. Still not close to 1000. Give me 1000 pp and I'm buying a high 70's rated player straight off the market. You might get a gold? Sure, one in every 6-7 packs. For that 7000 you could probably buy 3 talented gold players. I'm not sure how I'd fix this outside of card degradation, though... Last edited by One Post Wonder; 11-07-2018 at 03:33 PM. |
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Developer OOTP
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Germany
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Nope, it is not as easy as that...
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All Star Reserve
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 551
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Has anyone had a 1 bronze and 5 scrubs pack?
I know my packs have been getting worse after the entry league. Had one pack with a gold and 2 silvers in the entry league, since the league has started think at best I've had 2 silvers and 2 bronzes in one pack and 1 gold (low gold) and 2-3 bronzes. I do prefer the lower odds, make it take time to build a great roster and encourage use of the auction to find those undervalued over performers.
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