Speed Attributes

iguoyes · 11-06-2018, 08:28 PM

I find some cards have surprisingly low speed ratings. For example All-Star Yoenis Cespedes has a speed rating of 13, while his current live card has a speed rating of 42. There are other cards such as a center fielder who I can't remember had close to perfect defensive ratings, including outfield range, but had a very low speed below 20. One example I was able to find now is Tom Tresh All-Star 1962, he has 20 speed but an infield range of 78. I realize there is more to range than just speed, but surely he wasn't this slow.

I find most of the live cards make sense, but the historical ones have some extremes.

One Post Wonder · 11-06-2018, 09:16 PM

I just bought Tom Tresh. Looking at his stats, it certainly doesn't seem like he was fast. His stolen base totals are pathetic for a SS playing almost every game in the 1960's.

But still, he was a shortstop. Overall I agree with you. I think OOTP, when generating a player based on input, looks solely at the available offensive stats when range and position should matter too. You probably need a minimum speed of 50 to even play in the middle of the infield, more to play CF.

Markus Heinsohn · 11-07-2018, 03:17 AM

Yes, the historical cards are purely based on stats, which the live cards are also based on projections & subjective input & scouting. Hence some discrepancies.

11-06-2018, 08:28 PM	#1
iguoyes Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 4	Speed Attributes I find some cards have surprisingly low speed ratings. For example All-Star Yoenis Cespedes has a speed rating of 13, while his current live card has a speed rating of 42. There are other cards such as a center fielder who I can't remember had close to perfect defensive ratings, including outfield range, but had a very low speed below 20. One example I was able to find now is Tom Tresh All-Star 1962, he has 20 speed but an infield range of 78. I realize there is more to range than just speed, but surely he wasn't this slow. I find most of the live cards make sense, but the historical ones have some extremes.

11-07-2018, 03:17 AM	#3
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	Yes, the historical cards are purely based on stats, which the live cards are also based on projections & subjective input & scouting. Hence some discrepancies. __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

11-06-2018, 09:16 PM	#2
One Post Wonder All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 538	I just bought Tom Tresh. Looking at his stats, it certainly doesn't seem like he was fast. His stolen base totals are pathetic for a SS playing almost every game in the 1960's. But still, he was a shortstop. Overall I agree with you. I think OOTP, when generating a player based on input, looks solely at the available offensive stats when range and position should matter too. You probably need a minimum speed of 50 to even play in the middle of the infield, more to play CF.