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Old 09-08-2018, 10:39 PM   #1
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I thought I knew how...

... the lineup charts worked. Apparently I'm clueless. Why did Fritz enter the game as a defensive replacement? (no, there was no injury)
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Old 09-08-2018, 11:43 PM   #2
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Looks like Jim Rice might have been fatigued. Fritz is listed as his utility in the DT "if tired". If not then who knows? I've had a RP come in and substitute in the outfield randomly a couple of times despite being not being in the DT for some reason
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:01 AM   #3
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Looks like Jim Rice might have been fatigued. Fritz is listed as his utility in the DT "if tired". If not then who knows? I've had a RP come in and substitute in the outfield randomly a couple of times despite being not being in the DT for some reason
Fatigue doesn't work that way. The AI will sometimes sub guys out in a blowout. I don't think this qualifies.
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Old 09-09-2018, 01:35 AM   #4
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That does not make much sense. Combination of LHP sub and fatigue?
I may be missing it, what was the score in the 8th? 4-0?
Fritz had 0 ABs, defensive sub, bottom of the 8th? If RIce was exhausted and Fritz has good defense that seems reasonable.
I cannot remember if the left or right team is home, I am guessing right. Your depth chart shows no defensive subs which I think should mean "Do not replace my player" but what I think does not always apply.

I wonder if Rice crossed the fatigue threshold and the score and defense ratings along with pitcher handedness changes borked the AI.
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Old 09-09-2018, 03:43 AM   #5
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It makes sense if defensive sub settings are based upon who is currently pitching as opposed to whether it was a lefty or righty that started. When Fritz was subbed in a lefty was pitching. Fritz is slotted as a defensive replacement in left field vs LHP. But for that setting to make any sense it should be based upon the starting lineup used, not what hand the current pitcher is using.
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:23 AM   #6
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The only way I've found to definitively stop defensive subs is to go to the individual strategy screen and toggle the 'do not sub' box for a player. Otoh, I've seen players that are tired (rated at 75-80%), between games, so it makes sense that a tired player can get subbed. I haven't a clue how the game decides when to sub a tired player, but it's counterintuitive to me that a tired pitcher will get replaced when tired, but a tired starter won't.

And Rice was the only player to play all 18 games, apparently.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:55 PM   #7
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The only way I've found to definitively stop defensive subs is to go to the individual strategy screen and toggle the 'do not sub' box for a player. Otoh, I've seen players that are tired (rated at 75-80%), between games, so it makes sense that a tired player can get subbed. I haven't a clue how the game decides when to sub a tired player, but it's counterintuitive to me that a tired pitcher will get replaced when tired, but a tired starter won't.

And Rice was the only player to play all 18 games, apparently.
18 games over the first 23 days of the season and he was the DH against lefties. Tired position players do get replaced, at the start of games. They rarely get pulled in the middle of a game for being fatigued. In fact I don't think I've ever heard a manager answer "why was he pulled in the middle of the game?" by stating "fatigue". Some players, typically your older and more vulnerable ones, will get pulled late in games of blowouts just to reduce the amount of wear and tear they get over a season. Such a thing would not happen in a 4-0 game on May 1st after the team has played 18 games over 23 days.
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check slider preferences on coach -- if not challenge mode use editor with comish mode, because a couple are missing from view and i don't recall if they are relevant.

might shed light on another potential cause, and it might not.

i'm a firm believer there RL wear-n-tear over the season is really just how much they party on away trips. excluding catcher, which is just physically difficult on the body and pitcher's arms, of course.

playing a game in which a few balls are likely to be hit your way is not physically demanding... ffs, golf might be more physically demanding than a game of baseball, lol. more heavy lifting may be required in baseball but only in very short bursts and very infrequently in most cases. some of them are clear pigs - the 'panda' guy, e.g.

i don't care what you do for a living, there's a high probability it is more demanding than playing 162 games of baseball, lol.
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check slider preferences on coach -- if not challenge mode use editor with comish mode, because a couple are missing from view and i don't recall if they are relevant.

might shed light on another potential cause, and it might not.

i'm a firm believer there RL wear-n-tear over the season is really just how much they party on away trips. excluding catcher, which is just physically difficult on the body and pitcher's arms, of course.

playing a game in which a few balls are likely to be hit your way is not physically demanding... ffs, golf might be more physically demanding than a game of baseball, lol. more heavy lifting may be required in baseball but only in very short bursts and very infrequently in most cases. some of them are clear pigs - the 'panda' guy, e.g.

i don't care what you do for a living, there's a high probability it is more demanding than playing 162 games of baseball, lol.
There aren't any strategy sliders that affect defensive replacements. Also, I'm going to say that you are most likely wrong about the demands of a 162 game schedule on the body. Baseball players are a lot more at risk for injury throughout the year than most other people.
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