Is there a benefit to keeping someone in the international complex?

diop · 09-03-2018, 06:35 PM

I'm just wondering if there's a point to keeping my scouting discoveries in there? Or is it just to save roster spots? I play with allowing incomplete minor league rosters so there's no limit to how many guys I can have and I feel like I tend to not pay the closest attention to the complex.

Rain King · 09-03-2018, 06:51 PM

It starts the clock on when you need to add them to the 40-man roster or allow them to be exposed to the Rule V draft.

RchW · 09-03-2018, 07:12 PM

They're usually very young so I wait until 19-20 for the good ones and 21-22 for the rest. I only use 3 levels so YMMV.

Arobbins · 09-04-2018, 03:31 AM

They can stay there without counting towards their R5 status but will not develop as quickly. I usually will keep it pretty full unless I plan on bringing along a prospect rather quickly and into at least the 40 man roster within 3 years, or, by age 21.

Rain King · 09-04-2018, 10:27 AM

Yea, my general strategy is to get top prospects out of there fairly quickly and let minor league depth type guys stick around until 19 or 20 depending on how full it is (remember that if your complex is full your scout won't discover any new players).

Juggernt · 09-06-2018, 03:13 PM

Regardless of potential, I ship them out of the complex after they turn 18.

NoOne · 09-07-2018, 03:12 AM

mil svc time is based on "pro service time" correct?

you only get 1 free year in int'l complex. after that they definitely accrue pro service time, unless that was changed from past years.

i like to wait till the next year because it doesn't affect svc time and they are ~17 most of the time. this may be a small sample, but i have bad luck moving 16 year olds. age is a factor, but it's not an eliminating factor as always for any minor league level.

take 100 playrs all the same except age and place them at various levels. if you see a large enough difference at any combination, it's likely the cause. i'd wager money that an 18yo doesn't fare as well at AAA as an equally rated 24 year old (both rated well enough for AAA too). some will, but fewer in comparison. how much of a factor? upto you.

anecdotal, i do fine dumping fillwer in the next year or as needed. i generally don't see major drawbacks when i send a higher potential guy over ~17+. 16y 290days? not exactly a hard and fast line drawn.

ThePretender · 09-08-2018, 09:04 AM

I promote them ASAP if I think they're worthwhile. I find they decline much more often if you let them sit in the IC, and they develop much faster if you promote them.

09-03-2018, 06:35 PM	#1
diop Bat Boy Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 14	Is there a benefit to keeping someone in the international complex? I'm just wondering if there's a point to keeping my scouting discoveries in there? Or is it just to save roster spots? I play with allowing incomplete minor league rosters so there's no limit to how many guys I can have and I feel like I tend to not pay the closest attention to the complex.

09-03-2018, 07:12 PM	#3
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	They're usually very young so I wait until 19-20 for the good ones and 21-22 for the rest. I only use 3 levels so YMMV. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

09-07-2018, 03:12 AM	#7
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	mil svc time is based on "pro service time" correct? you only get 1 free year in int'l complex. after that they definitely accrue pro service time, unless that was changed from past years. i like to wait till the next year because it doesn't affect svc time and they are ~17 most of the time. this may be a small sample, but i have bad luck moving 16 year olds. age is a factor, but it's not an eliminating factor as always for any minor league level. take 100 playrs all the same except age and place them at various levels. if you see a large enough difference at any combination, it's likely the cause. i'd wager money that an 18yo doesn't fare as well at AAA as an equally rated 24 year old (both rated well enough for AAA too). some will, but fewer in comparison. how much of a factor? upto you. anecdotal, i do fine dumping fillwer in the next year or as needed. i generally don't see major drawbacks when i send a higher potential guy over ~17+. 16y 290days? not exactly a hard and fast line drawn. Last edited by NoOne; 09-07-2018 at 03:14 AM.

09-03-2018, 06:51 PM	#2
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,168	It starts the clock on when you need to add them to the 40-man roster or allow them to be exposed to the Rule V draft.

09-04-2018, 03:31 AM	#4
Arobbins Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 133	They can stay there without counting towards their R5 status but will not develop as quickly. I usually will keep it pretty full unless I plan on bringing along a prospect rather quickly and into at least the 40 man roster within 3 years, or, by age 21.

09-04-2018, 10:27 AM	#5
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,168	Yea, my general strategy is to get top prospects out of there fairly quickly and let minor league depth type guys stick around until 19 or 20 depending on how full it is (remember that if your complex is full your scout won't discover any new players).

09-06-2018, 03:13 PM	#6
Juggernt Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 357	Regardless of potential, I ship them out of the complex after they turn 18.

09-08-2018, 09:04 AM	#8
ThePretender All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,329	I promote them ASAP if I think they're worthwhile. I find they decline much more often if you let them sit in the IC, and they develop much faster if you promote them.