Getting tired of OOTP

Orioles123 · 08-20-2018, 08:42 PM

This is weird for me i have never got bored of any ootp versions but this year it seems i have no connection to my league what so ever and getting really annyoing because i want to fall in love with ootp its the only reason i have a computer that can handle it. I did not even finish one whole season besides simming with like 100 different kinds of leagues lots of fictional and historical and some modern players. I did tried to do player pictue packags maybe that will bring me more closer I reallh don't want to give up on the #2 best baseball simulation sorry Strat-O-Matic is my first sim board game ever. Maybe should I take a break for OOTP 20 and stop playing until i feel the need to play? Any suggestion for fictional league, modern league, and historical league?

Here is my player package files (not sure if this will continue unless lots of request.)

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=292034

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=292031

Of any questions PM me on the web and for player package etc....

battists · 08-20-2018, 09:06 PM

Well, I guess my question is, in the past what has really "floated your boat"? For example, I like thinking up stories, so I create fictional players and then have fun making up stories about them that makes me feel more connected to them.

I'd think of what was most compelling to you, then maybe people can give you a new twist on it.

That said, I've been with OOTP since OOTP 6, and I'm totally hot and cold. I'm playing a new fictional league right now as a rookie league manager, and loving it. But it's the first time I've touched the game since OOTP 17. Sometimes you just need a break.

Orioles123 · 08-20-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Well, I guess my question is, in the past what has really "floated your boat"? For example, I like thinking up stories, so I create fictional players and then have fun making up stories about them that makes me feel more connected to them.

I'd think of what was most compelling to you, then maybe people can give you a new twist on it.

That said, I've been with OOTP since OOTP 6, and I'm totally hot and cold. I'm playing a new fictional league right now as a rookie league manager, and loving it. But it's the first time I've touched the game since OOTP 17. Sometimes you just need a break.

WoW thats a long.................. time. So the problem is that I am a terrible writer so anything I write and my grammar is going to be very dumb which you can tell. But the most fun for me is re creating history and watching the historic games. But I do love writing about baseball but with my grammar I doubt anyone is gonna want to read it. But this might sound weird I am not sure how to play OOTP like how many weeks,months to sim and when and how should I trade, promote, and demote players I guess it's the way how I want to play. I will give a dynasty team report a shot hopefully will get me into it.

gemini615 · 08-20-2018, 09:18 PM

Have you tried creating a league with your favorite hometown in it?
You could start from the beginning of baseball and see how your team stacks up against all the other "major league" teams. Can you win a world series?
You could also rename all the players you draft to people you know in real life. That way your hometown team is filled with people you know and care about. It might add another element to the game if you haven't tried it yet.

Orioles123 · 08-20-2018, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gemini615

Have you tried creating a league with your favorite hometown in it?
You could start from the beginning of baseball and see how your team stacks up against all the other "major league" teams. Can you win a world series?
You could also rename all the players you draft to people you know in real life. That way your hometown team is filled with people you know and care about. It might add another element to the game if you haven't tried it yet.

I have not tried to rename the players what so ever actually lol i will give that a try but yea I did add my state where I live but that did not do much was a promotion and demotion league with 5 different state did not do much. Also editing players feels soo limited any way I can edit players? but don't think that would help.

BirdWatcher · 08-20-2018, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles123

WoW thats a long.................. time. So the problem is that I am a terrible writer so anything I write and my grammar is going to be very dumb which you can tell. But the most fun for me is re creating history and watching the historic games. But I do love writing about baseball but with my grammar I doubt anyone is gonna want to read it. But this might sound weird I am not sure how to play OOTP like how many weeks,months to sim and when and how should I trade, promote, and demote players I guess it's the way how I want to play. I will give a dynasty team report a shot hopefully will get me into it.

I think you've hit on it here, that it really comes down to how you want to play it. That's one of the great things about OOTP- that it is so customizable to what works for each person. When I first started playing, which was with OOTP18, which I purchased during the last World Series, I started with the team I know the best, the Colorado Rockies. For me it helped starting with the familiar, with a team and players that I know well. And through trial and error I figured out the method of playing that worked best for me. And that can change over time. With my Rockies game I usually played out just one game a week and simmed the rest of the week. I found that I didn't really like to micromanage within the game so I just set up strategies and 7-day lineups and let the AI take it from there, even in the games I played out. And that worked really well for that game.

But after playing through eleven season with that, I needed a new challenge and set up a fictional league. Nothing fancy, just basic, mostly out of the box, you might say. And in order to get invested in this and really get to know my team and the league, and with the 3D improvements of OOTP19, I started playing out every single game for my team. And that's still what I do with that league, which has just entered its third season. And I love it!

But my point is, even for one person there can be different approaches depending upon the game/league you set up and what works best at that moment, with that setup. The best thing to do might be just to keep trying different things until something really catches your attention. But probably best to start with something you already have passion about.

As for the writing part, well, I think if posting dynasty reports here would help you get invested in a game/league/project then you should by all means do that. And I would say to do it your way. I'm sort of a frustrated would-be-novelist/former English major myself, so I tend to over-write. But the reality is that any dynasty report you write should reflect who you are and what your interests are. And honestly, sometimes the best reports are the ones that focus on the facts and stats. It doesn't require writing a novel, as I tend to do. My approach (and it probably shows, I'm afraid) in writing a dynasty report is to just do it for myself. If I do it in a way that is interesting to me then maybe there will be someone else out there who will find it interesting too. And if not, well, it's a nice outlet for me and helps me keep my thoughts and plans focused. I say do it, do it for you, and do it your way. All the rest will take care of itself.

(Oh, and I'm a long time Strat guy too. Still get the urge to roll the dice and shuffle the cards and consult the charts now and then. Even though OOTP is now my main baseball sim obsession.)

Orioles123 · 08-20-2018, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

I think you've hit on it here, that it really comes down to how you want to play it. That's one of the great things about OOTP- that it is so customizable to what works for each person. When I first started playing, which was with OOTP18, which I purchased during the last World Series, I started with the team I know the best, the Colorado Rockies. For me it helped starting with the familiar, with a team and players that I know well. And through trial and error I figured out the method of playing that worked best for me. And that can change over time. With my Rockies game I usually played out just one game a week and simmed the rest of the week. I found that I didn't really like to micromanage within the game so I just set up strategies and 7-day lineups and let the AI take it from there, even in the games I played out. And that worked really well for that game.

But after playing through eleven season with that, I needed a new challenge and set up a fictional league. Nothing fancy, just basic, mostly out of the box, you might say. And in order to get invested in this and really get to know my team and the league, and with the 3D improvements of OOTP19, I started playing out every single game for my team. And that's still what I do with that league, which has just entered its third season. And I love it!

But my point is, even for one person there can be different approaches depending upon the game/league you set up and what works best at that moment, with that setup. The best thing to do might be just to keep trying different things until something really catches your attention. But probably best to start with something you already have passion about.

As for the writing part, well, I think if posting dynasty reports here would help you get invested in a game/league/project then you should by all means do that. And I would say to do it your way. I'm sort of a frustrated would-be-novelist/former English major myself, so I tend to over-write. But the reality is that any dynasty report you write should reflect who you are and what your interests are. And honestly, sometimes the best reports are the ones that focus on the facts and stats. It doesn't require writing a novel, as I tend to do. My approach (and it probably shows, I'm afraid) in writing a dynasty report is to just do it for myself. If I do it in a way that is interesting to me then maybe there will be someone else out there who will find it interesting too. And if not, well, it's a nice outlet for me and helps me keep my thoughts and plans focused. I say do it, do it for you, and do it your way. All the rest will take care of itself.

(Oh, and I'm a long time Strat guy too. Still get the urge to roll the dice and shuffle the cards and consult the charts now and then. Even though OOTP is now my main baseball sim obsession.)

Wow thanks a lot man! like I get really annoyed I wanna be up all night playing ootp like I use to do, but wow every day pass without playing OOTP is really hard while 40 minutes in OOTP I get annoyed because then it gets boring since I played OOTP 18 none stop like on steam I have like 3k hours in OOTP 18 got it after the WS as well but so many hours into it lol.

BirdWatcher · 08-20-2018, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles123

Wow thanks a lot man! like I get really annoyed I wanna be up all night playing ootp like I use to do, but wow every day pass without playing OOTP is really hard while 40 minutes in OOTP I get annoyed because then it gets boring since I played OOTP 18 none stop like on steam I have like 3k hours in OOTP 18 got it after the WS as well but so many hours into it lol.

Well, it sounds like you, like me, got pretty obsessed with OOTP pretty quickly after purchasing it. Honestly, I guess I still am (

) but sometimes with these things you can get a bit burnt out too and need to step back. I know that for all of the hours of enjoyment I have had with this game I've also had some of those moments where I found myself just getting so mad and frustrated with my players. It wasn't (isn't) good for my blood pressure. And then I have to remind myself, hey, this is just a game and it's supposed to be fun. So, no harm in stepping away for a bit. Or trying something completely different in the game. The reality is, sometimes I have the most fun just exploring my fictional universe, strolling through my minor league rosters, checking out the latest stats and seeing what's trending. I can do this for hours without actually making a single move in the game and without the calendar in my fictional world moving even one day ahead. And that can be very relaxing and re-energize me too. Sometimes the temptation is to want to move too fast and get lots of results quickly. (Granted, for some people that is the perfect approach most of the time.) I'm just suggesting that sometimes slowing it down might help too.

Orioles123 · 08-21-2018, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

Well, it sounds like you, like me, got pretty obsessed with OOTP pretty quickly after purchasing it. Honestly, I guess I still am (

) but sometimes with these things you can get a bit burnt out too and need to step back. I know that for all of the hours of enjoyment I have had with this game I've also had some of those moments where I found myself just getting so mad and frustrated with my players. It wasn't (isn't) good for my blood pressure. And then I have to remind myself, hey, this is just a game and it's supposed to be fun. So, no harm in stepping away for a bit. Or trying something completely different in the game. The reality is, sometimes I have the most fun just exploring my fictional universe, strolling through my minor league rosters, checking out the latest stats and seeing what's trending. I can do this for hours without actually making a single move in the game and without the calendar in my fictional world moving even one day ahead. And that can be very relaxing and re-energize me too. Sometimes the temptation is to want to move too fast and get lots of results quickly. (Granted, for some people that is the perfect approach most of the time.) I'm just suggesting that sometimes slowing it down might help too.

Yea, but i wish i had the patience to sit and look at all the stats but i dont i rush through it.

BirdWatcher · 08-21-2018, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Orioles123

Yea, but i wish i had the patience to sit and look at all the stats but i dont i rush through it.

Well, if that's working for you, great. But it sounds like right now maybe it's not.

You could always try shifting your approach. Get a little zen about it. See if that helps.

Mr. Marlin · 08-21-2018, 08:27 AM

It sounds like you are just a little burned out. Nothing wrong with taking a break. It will be here when you get ready.

Echoing some earlier advice here. When you do what you need is something fresh and different. Look on the mods page for logos and uniforms you have never used. Or make your own. There are excellent tools there that make it easier than it has ever been. Start a new game fully fictional with a whole new look.

You might consider all fictional teams and players. Don't reuse any team pr player name you have heard before. If you want to learn to focus on stats then just turn off the ratings. Stats only is a legitimate way to play OOTP that many players like. It's not for everyone but it's worth a shot. It's not easier or harder, but it is different.

Build feeder leagues for your draft pool. Scouting feeder leagues and planning your draft is a whole new component you may not have tried. It's extremely engrossing I've found. In my fictional league I all but ignore my major league team through may and june watching the feeder news pages and stat pages.

Pick a different era. Believe it or not OOTP plays differently pre-1900. More hits, worse fielding, more errors. TXRanger & Knuckler have made gigbytes of fictional and factual uniforms for pre modern teams. They are really high quality.

Try a promotion/relegation league. It's not for me I can tell you. But it IS different.

Another idea is to be ruthless with league management. Turn off revenue sharing and compensatory draft picks. If a club can't survive, move it. Or contract it. That is something different. Take over one of your seriously revenue distressed clubs and try to save it. MLB (and default OOTP fictional) has measures to help low revenue clubs survive and recover. Take those away and see if you can sink or swim with one of them. Trust me, that with doing your own scouting, managing, & stats only IS a challenge.

Reggie · 08-21-2018, 09:25 AM

I haven't done it yet, but one of these days I'm going to change the name of someone in the draft pool to my name and then manage each team I'm on as I advance through the organization. Probably won't edit anything but the name and see how I do. Sounds kind of corny but I'm still going to do it eventually.

battists · 08-21-2018, 10:34 AM

I’d like to add, if you feel the urge to write about your dynasty, then just write about your dynasty! Even if you post it here, no one is going to care about you grammar, and frankly, I suspect very few of those things are actually read by others. My thread has a few thanks on it but that’s about it. It’s really more for yourself.

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bombboy85 · 08-21-2018, 11:06 AM

Curious, have you ever tried an online league? Ever since I joined online leagues I get bored with solo games but am addicted to the online games.

rudel.dietrich · 08-21-2018, 01:50 PM

Sometimes its best to take time away. Weeks or even months.
It's also okay to see other games.

Oddly enough when I try and use this same logic with my wife she is not as receptive

Westheim · 08-21-2018, 02:24 PM

First, in a case of "I am tired of OOTP", there is about a million other games out there, so it's not like the end of the world.

However, why the need to sim? I have a couple o' thousands of hours down in OOTP and of those I simmed maybe... three or four. It's boring. Dull. Maybe dumb. It does not engage me at all.

Here is what kept me engaged after largely foundering with historical gameplay like the '62 Mets. Take your favorite thing, ever. Like, f.e. raccoons. That is going to be your team name: Raccoons. If your favorite think is cheese cake, name them Cheesecakes. Stick them in a town, stick them in a fictional league (because adding them as expansion team to MLB is prone to send you down the false-expectations-with-real-life-players rabbit hole) and play out every goddamn game. And if you're out by 20 in August, still play out every game. That team is your favorite thing in the world, remember?

Finally, if you want to write a dynasty report, write a dynasty report. You write a dynasty report because you want to write a dynasty report, not because other people might want to read a dynasty report. I like engaging day-by-day dissection of team and league issues in a dynasty, I do not like mass-simmed monthly stat dumps. That doesn't mean you should write a day-by-day dissection of team and league issues.

It doesn't matter if you never get a comment, or like, or if nobody ever reads it, because, you know, in the end it's only a baseball league in a computer game, and ultimately we're all gonna die anyway, whether you win seven penannts in a row and took screenshots of your Opening Day roster or not.

Maybe I will read yours. Maybe I won't. Doesn't matter. It's a thing that you do first and foremost for yourself to get even deeper into the league you created. Over time, if done with effort, it can turn into a treasure trove of random stats, memories, and weird coincidences...:

Quote:

Fun Fact: [The Raccoons' SP] Graham Wasserman's home run on Sunday was the third of his career, the other two coming years ago during his Bayhawks days.

You know where this is going, right? Wasserman's first career homer came against then-Condor Casey Hally in 2018, but on May 26, 2021, the Raccoons were playing a rubber game at the Bay where Hector Santos (his last season as a Critter) in the second inning allowed a double to Errol Spears, a single to Tyler Gooch, and then hit Gerardo Gonzalez, eventually pulling up Wasserman with the bases loaded before presenting him with a ball on a stick. Wasserman's grand slam caused some mild depression and was also the eventual margin of victory (8-4) for San Francisco.

A dynasty report keeps your greatest tragedies alive for you forever. Also, victories, but I have less experience with that since I frankly suck at the game. I just write about it, endlessly. And due to that I could totally go back to the post now and relive Keith Ayers being thrown out at home in the 12th inning to deny us a tie-breaker game against the Crusaders if I desire so.

You write a dynasty not for others, but for yourself. I know about that; there were absolutely times where the Raccoons were the only thing that kept me from going absolutely bat**** crazy for good and forever.

battists · 08-21-2018, 02:39 PM

I know for a fact that when Red Dead Redemption 2 comes out, I’m off of OOTP for a few months at least. Same kinda scratching, different itch.

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BIG17EASY · 08-21-2018, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie

I haven't done it yet, but one of these days I'm going to change the name of someone in the draft pool to my name and then manage each team I'm on as I advance through the organization. Probably won't edit anything but the name and see how I do. Sounds kind of corny but I'm still going to do it eventually.

I've done something similar. I have a fictional league where I take the top five players in each draft class and change the names to the names of guys I played with in college. It's fun to watch their careers progress.

ihatenames · 08-21-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

I know for a fact that when Red Dead Redemption 2 comes out, I’m off of OOTP for a few months at least. Same kinda scratching, different itch.

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Indeed. I go through stretches of several months not playing OOTP. I’ve been playing since 2002 and I will keep coming back.

Just take a break. OOTP will call out to again within a few months and you will be just as addicted.

ForeverRoyalKC · 08-21-2018, 05:04 PM

Wow...kinda hard to imagine burning out on OOTP. There's so many ways to play it, I have yet to go thru an entire season! I am probably one of the kings of "start over."
Have a Royals fantasy team! No...wait...an Astros fantasy team! Uh, no...I'll manage the 1979 Royals! No...wait...the 1978 Royals! Wait...maybe fictional teams! I know...the places my mother, father and I have lived in our lives and make that a league! No...I'll take the 2018 Braves! No...wait.............

The choices are, in the most complimentary way, just riDONKulous! I applaud those who can commit to one thing and stick to it!

08-20-2018, 08:42 PM	#1
Orioles123 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 60	Getting tired of OOTP This is weird for me i have never got bored of any ootp versions but this year it seems i have no connection to my league what so ever and getting really annyoing because i want to fall in love with ootp its the only reason i have a computer that can handle it. I did not even finish one whole season besides simming with like 100 different kinds of leagues lots of fictional and historical and some modern players. I did tried to do player pictue packags maybe that will bring me more closer I reallh don't want to give up on the #2 best baseball simulation sorry Strat-O-Matic is my first sim board game ever. Maybe should I take a break for OOTP 20 and stop playing until i feel the need to play? Any suggestion for fictional league, modern league, and historical league? Here is my player package files (not sure if this will continue unless lots of request.) http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=292034 http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=292031 Of any questions PM me on the web and for player package etc.... Last edited by Orioles123; 08-20-2018 at 08:47 PM.

08-21-2018, 10:34 AM	#13
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	I’d like to add, if you feel the urge to write about your dynasty, then just write about your dynasty! Even if you post it here, no one is going to care about you grammar, and frankly, I suspect very few of those things are actually read by others. My thread has a few thanks on it but that’s about it. It’s really more for yourself. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Come check out my dynasty report, Funky Times!

08-21-2018, 02:39 PM	#17
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	I know for a fact that when Red Dead Redemption 2 comes out, I’m off of OOTP for a few months at least. Same kinda scratching, different itch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Come check out my dynasty report, Funky Times!

08-20-2018, 09:06 PM	#2
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Well, I guess my question is, in the past what has really "floated your boat"? For example, I like thinking up stories, so I create fictional players and then have fun making up stories about them that makes me feel more connected to them. I'd think of what was most compelling to you, then maybe people can give you a new twist on it. That said, I've been with OOTP since OOTP 6, and I'm totally hot and cold. I'm playing a new fictional league right now as a rookie league manager, and loving it. But it's the first time I've touched the game since OOTP 17. Sometimes you just need a break. __________________ Come check out my dynasty report, Funky Times!

08-20-2018, 09:18 PM	#4
gemini615 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 671	Have you tried creating a league with your favorite hometown in it? You could start from the beginning of baseball and see how your team stacks up against all the other "major league" teams. Can you win a world series? You could also rename all the players you draft to people you know in real life. That way your hometown team is filled with people you know and care about. It might add another element to the game if you haven't tried it yet.

08-21-2018, 08:27 AM	#11
Mr. Marlin All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,274	It sounds like you are just a little burned out. Nothing wrong with taking a break. It will be here when you get ready. Echoing some earlier advice here. When you do what you need is something fresh and different. Look on the mods page for logos and uniforms you have never used. Or make your own. There are excellent tools there that make it easier than it has ever been. Start a new game fully fictional with a whole new look. You might consider all fictional teams and players. Don't reuse any team pr player name you have heard before. If you want to learn to focus on stats then just turn off the ratings. Stats only is a legitimate way to play OOTP that many players like. It's not for everyone but it's worth a shot. It's not easier or harder, but it is different. Build feeder leagues for your draft pool. Scouting feeder leagues and planning your draft is a whole new component you may not have tried. It's extremely engrossing I've found. In my fictional league I all but ignore my major league team through may and june watching the feeder news pages and stat pages. Pick a different era. Believe it or not OOTP plays differently pre-1900. More hits, worse fielding, more errors. TXRanger & Knuckler have made gigbytes of fictional and factual uniforms for pre modern teams. They are really high quality. Try a promotion/relegation league. It's not for me I can tell you. But it IS different. Another idea is to be ruthless with league management. Turn off revenue sharing and compensatory draft picks. If a club can't survive, move it. Or contract it. That is something different. Take over one of your seriously revenue distressed clubs and try to save it. MLB (and default OOTP fictional) has measures to help low revenue clubs survive and recover. Take those away and see if you can sink or swim with one of them. Trust me, that with doing your own scouting, managing, & stats only IS a challenge.

08-21-2018, 09:25 AM	#12
Reggie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 442	I haven't done it yet, but one of these days I'm going to change the name of someone in the draft pool to my name and then manage each team I'm on as I advance through the organization. Probably won't edit anything but the name and see how I do. Sounds kind of corny but I'm still going to do it eventually.

08-21-2018, 11:06 AM	#14
bombboy85 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 454	Curious, have you ever tried an online league? Ever since I joined online leagues I get bored with solo games but am addicted to the online games.

08-21-2018, 01:50 PM	#15
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Sometimes its best to take time away. Weeks or even months. It's also okay to see other games. Oddly enough when I try and use this same logic with my wife she is not as receptive

08-21-2018, 05:04 PM	#20
ForeverRoyalKC All Star Starter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Hop, skip and a jump from Pomme De Terre Lake, MO. Posts: 1,194	Wow...kinda hard to imagine burning out on OOTP. There's so many ways to play it, I have yet to go thru an entire season! I am probably one of the kings of "start over." Have a Royals fantasy team! No...wait...an Astros fantasy team! Uh, no...I'll manage the 1979 Royals! No...wait...the 1978 Royals! Wait...maybe fictional teams! I know...the places my mother, father and I have lived in our lives and make that a league! No...I'll take the 2018 Braves! No...wait............. The choices are, in the most complimentary way, just riDONKulous! I applaud those who can commit to one thing and stick to it!