Arbitration Numbers Didn't Match

torpidbeaver · 07-15-2018, 02:08 AM

I changed my arbitration offers to a couple players - to one I offered 560k; another 700k - but the email I received said that the arbitrator ruled in favor of me and gave the players both $817,500.

I made sure to hit the "Change" button on the arbitration page. I'm not sure what's happening here. I thought OOTP's "arbitrator" had to pick between the team offer and the player offer, no numbers in between. Is that not the case?

Whoofe · 07-15-2018, 03:18 PM

was 817500 the new league minimum? do you have financial inflation turned on?

torpidbeaver · 07-16-2018, 08:45 PM

Took a look at my League Settings, and the league minimum still hasn't changed, so I don't think that was it.

Weird stuff. Anyway, my game crashed and I hadn't saved since the start of the offseason, so I guess I'll try it again.

torpidbeaver · 07-21-2018, 01:35 AM

So yeah, it happened again. I had my arbitration numbers set, and once again I'm paying 200k more than I want.

It's weird that it's $817,500 again, though.

The league minimum is still around $550k.

No idea what's going on here.

RchW · 07-21-2018, 05:12 AM

Arbitration awards are never the league minimum. Always more usually quite a bit more.

jimmysthebestcop · 07-21-2018, 08:19 PM

Sounds like you win you don't really know what the player is asking. If he won he probably would have shot over 1 million. Usually when you win its some where like 700-850 k range depending

That number on your arbitration screen is just what you are offering not what player is asking. It really doesn't ever say the number the player is asking.

Say if the number on arbitration screen is 1 million even. You can change it to offer 1.5 million lose hearing and the player get 2.2 million. Just an example but it does happen

torpidbeaver · 07-21-2018, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Sounds like you win you don't really know what the player is asking. If he won he probably would have shot over 1 million. Usually when you win its some where like 700-850 k range depending

That number on your arbitration screen is just what you are offering not what player is asking. It really doesn't ever say the number the player is asking.

Say if the number on arbitration screen is 1 million even. You can change it to offer 1.5 million lose hearing and the player get 2.2 million. Just an example but it does happen

Right, I think I understand, and maybe I’m mistaken but I don’t think that’s what’s happening. I thought how it worked was:

I make an offer, let’s say “640k”. The player makes an offer that I don’t get to see until after the fact. In this case it was something like 1.1m. I thought the “arbitrator “ has to choose one of those two numbers?

If that’s not what happens in game, then that’s fine, I’m mistaken. But both times the game had told me that the arbitrator ruled in my favor, and both times the game awarded the player a number well above what I submitted on the arbitration screen.

RchW · 07-21-2018, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by torpidbeaver

Right, I think I understand, and maybe I’m mistaken but I don’t think that’s what’s happening. I thought how it worked was:

I make an offer, let’s say “640k”. The player makes an offer that I don’t get to see until after the fact. In this case it was something like 1.1m. I thought the “arbitrator “ has to choose one of those two numbers?

If that’s not what happens in game, then that’s fine, I’m mistaken. But both times the game had told me that the arbitrator ruled in my favor, and both times the game awarded the player a number well above what I submitted on the arbitration screen.

Please show a screenshot of your Arb page

torpidbeaver · 07-22-2018, 12:53 AM

I simmed past it, but I'll force-quit and re-load. One sec.

So yeah, I change my offers to like 600k for Casali, and 700-something for Mallex. I'll sign CJ to an extension.

Then I'll get an email saying that I won arbitration, and that they'll sign for 815,500.

Here it is again.

torpidbeaver · 07-22-2018, 01:00 AM

For some reason it's not letting me attach another image when I edit.

TGH-Adfabre · 07-22-2018, 01:10 AM

Obligatory question:
Did you click the change button after you input the new salary you wanted to offer?

torpidbeaver · 07-22-2018, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by torpidbeaver

I made sure to hit the "Change" button on the arbitration page. I'm not sure what's happening here. I thought OOTP's "arbitrator" had to pick between the team offer and the player offer, no numbers in between. Is that not the case?

Yeah, I did. But even if I didn't, $815k wasn't the default, original amount.

jimmysthebestcop · 07-22-2018, 02:05 AM

Is this only happening for the league minimum guys?

I think the game isn't handling the low offer correctly since it is barely above the league minimum. And its like putting the lowest team offer in automatically or something.

Like this doesn't happen with a player asking for millions where its a random salary its only whatever it is if the players wins or the number you picked if you win.

kjb023 · 07-22-2018, 02:42 AM

Yeah this is definitely something that's happened to me as well. I'll offer a guy a certain amount, win in arbitration, and it'll say a different amount for the guy's new contract. I always just assumed it was some sort of inflation or something...

torpidbeaver · 07-22-2018, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Is this only happening for the league minimum guys?

I think the game isn't handling the low offer correctly since it is barely above the league minimum. And its like putting the lowest team offer in automatically or something.

Like this doesn't happen with a player asking for millions where its a random salary its only whatever it is if the players wins or the number you picked if you win.

That’s a good idea, I’ll try testing what happens with a bigger arb number.

Maybe this is a bug?

RchW · 07-22-2018, 09:43 AM

It doesn't make sense as CJ Cron got exactly what the first screenshot says. Certainly looks like a bug. Something I've never seen.

torpidbeaver · 07-22-2018, 05:19 PM

Yeah, more weirdness:

Still getting the same issues with Curt Casali & Mallex Smith, but I tried changing CJ Cron's offer and it had no problem with the number I offered.

torpidbeaver · 07-22-2018, 05:30 PM

So if I offer more than 815,500, the game has no problem accepting the offer.

It also doesn't appear to have any issue with judging bad offers, as it ruled in favor of CJ Cron when I offered 1.95m.

jimmysthebestcop · 07-22-2018, 08:25 PM

Kind of what I thought. Like there is some minimum arbitration number we aren't seeing and if you offer say 650k and win it doesn't give them 650k cause it's programmed to start at 815k or whatever

torpidbeaver · 07-23-2018, 12:07 AM

Maybe, but that seems weird - there are a decent number of players who have salaries just north of the league minimum, and well under $815k.

I know it's not a big deal, and I'm going to roll with it, but it seems like a weird bug or something that ought to be tweaked.

07-15-2018, 02:08 AM	#1
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 389	Arbitration Numbers Didn't Match I changed my arbitration offers to a couple players - to one I offered 560k; another 700k - but the email I received said that the arbitrator ruled in favor of me and gave the players both $817,500. I made sure to hit the "Change" button on the arbitration page. I'm not sure what's happening here. I thought OOTP's "arbitrator" had to pick between the team offer and the player offer, no numbers in between. Is that not the case?

07-21-2018, 05:12 AM	#5
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Arbitration awards are never the league minimum. Always more usually quite a bit more. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

07-22-2018, 12:53 AM	#9
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 389	I simmed past it, but I'll force-quit and re-load. One sec. So yeah, I change my offers to like 600k for Casali, and 700-something for Mallex. I'll sign CJ to an extension. Then I'll get an email saying that I won arbitration, and that they'll sign for 815,500. Here it is again. Attached Images Last edited by torpidbeaver; 07-22-2018 at 12:59 AM.

07-22-2018, 01:00 AM	#10
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 389	For some reason it's not letting me attach another image when I edit. Attached Images

07-22-2018, 01:10 AM	#11
TGH-Adfabre Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,601	Obligatory question: Did you click the change button after you input the new salary you wanted to offer? __________________ You mock me, therefore I am My wife

07-15-2018, 03:18 PM	#2
Whoofe All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 590	was 817500 the new league minimum? do you have financial inflation turned on?

07-16-2018, 08:45 PM	#3
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 389	Took a look at my League Settings, and the league minimum still hasn't changed, so I don't think that was it. Weird stuff. Anyway, my game crashed and I hadn't saved since the start of the offseason, so I guess I'll try it again.

07-21-2018, 01:35 AM	#4
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 389	So yeah, it happened again. I had my arbitration numbers set, and once again I'm paying 200k more than I want. It's weird that it's $817,500 again, though. The league minimum is still around $550k. No idea what's going on here.

07-21-2018, 08:19 PM	#6
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,727 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	Sounds like you win you don't really know what the player is asking. If he won he probably would have shot over 1 million. Usually when you win its some where like 700-850 k range depending That number on your arbitration screen is just what you are offering not what player is asking. It really doesn't ever say the number the player is asking. Say if the number on arbitration screen is 1 million even. You can change it to offer 1.5 million lose hearing and the player get 2.2 million. Just an example but it does happen

07-22-2018, 02:05 AM	#13
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,727 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	Is this only happening for the league minimum guys? I think the game isn't handling the low offer correctly since it is barely above the league minimum. And its like putting the lowest team offer in automatically or something. Like this doesn't happen with a player asking for millions where its a random salary its only whatever it is if the players wins or the number you picked if you win.

07-22-2018, 02:42 AM	#14
kjb023 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 389	Yeah this is definitely something that's happened to me as well. I'll offer a guy a certain amount, win in arbitration, and it'll say a different amount for the guy's new contract. I always just assumed it was some sort of inflation or something...

07-22-2018, 09:43 AM	#16
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	It doesn't make sense as CJ Cron got exactly what the first screenshot says. Certainly looks like a bug. Something I've never seen. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

07-22-2018, 05:19 PM	#17
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 389	Yeah, more weirdness: Still getting the same issues with Curt Casali & Mallex Smith, but I tried changing CJ Cron's offer and it had no problem with the number I offered. Attached Images

07-22-2018, 05:30 PM	#18
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 389	So if I offer more than 815,500, the game has no problem accepting the offer. It also doesn't appear to have any issue with judging bad offers, as it ruled in favor of CJ Cron when I offered 1.95m. Attached Images

07-22-2018, 08:25 PM	#19
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,727 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	Kind of what I thought. Like there is some minimum arbitration number we aren't seeing and if you offer say 650k and win it doesn't give them 650k cause it's programmed to start at 815k or whatever

07-23-2018, 12:07 AM	#20
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 389	Maybe, but that seems weird - there are a decent number of players who have salaries just north of the league minimum, and well under $815k. I know it's not a big deal, and I'm going to roll with it, but it seems like a weird bug or something that ought to be tweaked.