Thoughts on using external SSD

pgjocki · 05-28-2018, 12:26 PM

Has anyone used an external SSD to load and run OOTP? There is a sale today for a Samsung T5 500GB USB 3.1 Portable External SSD for $150 and I am thinking of pulling the trigger.

I might buy the drive for other reasons than just OOTP; but if this is a good idea for OOTP that might be the final push to make me do it.

Pjm8804 · 05-28-2018, 01:02 PM

I use a WD My Passport 2 TB for OOTP. Allows me to play my leagues at home and work without having to save and move files. The game will still save some files to the computer, to include licensing, but it works well for me. No issues.

NoOne · 05-28-2018, 07:22 PM

what's read/write speed of usb 3.0? i'm pretty sure a decent 5400rpm hdd can outpace a 3.0 connection. (5400 > 7200 due to less noice and heat. rpm * aerial density = speed, for basic equipment the speeds are usually equal, so 5400>7200, but check specs to verify)

a backup in ootp might be noticeably quicker. an ssd will handle the thousands of small files faster. also, there is less noise with an ssd.

load times and the majority of things would be limited by how it is connected and not hdd vs ssd for the majority of activity.

maybe some aspect of an ssd is important to you, but don't do it because you think it will be faster. otherwise save a buck and get a mechanical and more capacity.

i've even recommend a step further. sacrifice the ssd for wireless connectivity. a Network Attached Storage device (NAS). i'd assume they still have a usb connection, but also the ability to plug it and place it anwhere within the reach of a network. (portable, bring with you, etc)

might find one for 100? def 150

Yarideki · 05-28-2018, 07:43 PM

I currently use a 128GB SD card since all of my computers have SD slots and I can't really beat the portability of an SD card and but I have considered using my WD My Passport HDD as well at times. If I didn't move around a lot and use my Surface I probably would use the WD My Passport HDD but for now it's relegated to being the spot where I dump my backups too as far as OOTP is concerned. If OneDrive wasn't a pain to get synced I would probably have that as my top choice because then I wouldn't have to worry about physically losing my storage device.

Anyway, more on topic, I find that using the SD Card (or any physical external storage device) works really well for my needs and I'd say give it a shot. You could always put some velcro on your laptops and the SSD if you're like me and worried about losing things all the time out of carelessness.

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Originally Posted by Pjm8804

I use a WD My Passport 2 TB for OOTP. Allows me to play my leagues at home and work without having to save and move files. The game will still save some files to the computer, to include licensing, but it works well for me. No issues.

I think that I want to work where you work if you're playing OOTP on the job without IT sending nastygrams for using unauthorized programs.

MizzouRah · 05-28-2018, 11:03 PM

I have a 1 TB SSD in my desktop pc and OOTP runs like a dream.

Well, 16 GB of ram doesn't hurt either.

kryakyu12 · 05-29-2018, 04:18 PM

Like Yerideki, I also use an SD card for my main game, but also sometimes use an external USB (spinning) disk, while the game itself is installed to my (internal) SSD. I love the portability of the SD card, and the fact that my (large) save games are not using space on my main drive, since I can keep it in my laptop more or less permanently. However, it is fairly slow on both reads and writes. For a small league this is not much of a problem, but if, say, you are writing the annual almanac for the full MLB it could take some time. Of course, it will depend on your computer, and SD card (or USB connection).

Using an external disk (SD, USB, or something else) works fine, and once set up should be essentially transparent (as long as you remember to have the disk plugged in

).

Cheers!
-kr-

pgjocki · 05-30-2018, 12:10 AM

Thanks for the input; I ordered the drive because I will use it for other stuff even if the OOTP experiment doesn't work.

I think I will also bite the bullet and just get a new laptop shortly as well

NoOne · 06-01-2018, 12:54 AM

it's more than fast enough to load a game from it etc.. no worries on that. even if your current laptop only has a 2.0 usb port. once the game is running, and a leauge is loaded, it's not using the storage device much at all.

if the ssd is faster than the usb3.0 connection allows, that's the part i'd be concerned about as far as bang for your buck -- ie you don't make use of ssd's speed and no different in performance than a less expensive portable hdd equivalent. pretty sure usb3 is <100mbytes/s? 1/4-1/5th the speed of an ssd max rate and just a bit shy of hdd read/write rates too. (*maybe the slow part (very small portion) of platter dips to 80mb/s on an hdd)

and, if you only have a 2.0 connection available, that's 1/100th the speed of an ssd's max.

05-28-2018, 12:26 PM	#1
pgjocki All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Maryland - just outside DC Posts: 1,645	Thoughts on using external SSD Has anyone used an external SSD to load and run OOTP? There is a sale today for a Samsung T5 500GB USB 3.1 Portable External SSD for $150 and I am thinking of pulling the trigger. I might buy the drive for other reasons than just OOTP; but if this is a good idea for OOTP that might be the final push to make me do it. __________________ - - - World Series championships: 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, 2011

05-30-2018, 12:10 AM	#7
pgjocki All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Maryland - just outside DC Posts: 1,645	Thanks for the input; I ordered the drive because I will use it for other stuff even if the OOTP experiment doesn't work. I think I will also bite the bullet and just get a new laptop shortly as well __________________ - - - World Series championships: 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, 2011

05-28-2018, 01:02 PM	#2
Pjm8804 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Waxahachie, Texas Posts: 43	I use a WD My Passport 2 TB for OOTP. Allows me to play my leagues at home and work without having to save and move files. The game will still save some files to the computer, to include licensing, but it works well for me. No issues.

05-28-2018, 07:22 PM	#3
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	what's read/write speed of usb 3.0? i'm pretty sure a decent 5400rpm hdd can outpace a 3.0 connection. (5400 > 7200 due to less noice and heat. rpm * aerial density = speed, for basic equipment the speeds are usually equal, so 5400>7200, but check specs to verify) a backup in ootp might be noticeably quicker. an ssd will handle the thousands of small files faster. also, there is less noise with an ssd. load times and the majority of things would be limited by how it is connected and not hdd vs ssd for the majority of activity. maybe some aspect of an ssd is important to you, but don't do it because you think it will be faster. otherwise save a buck and get a mechanical and more capacity. i've even recommend a step further. sacrifice the ssd for wireless connectivity. a Network Attached Storage device (NAS). i'd assume they still have a usb connection, but also the ability to plug it and place it anwhere within the reach of a network. (portable, bring with you, etc) might find one for 100? def 150

05-28-2018, 11:03 PM	#5
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,266	I have a 1 TB SSD in my desktop pc and OOTP runs like a dream. Well, 16 GB of ram doesn't hurt either.

05-29-2018, 04:18 PM	#6
kryakyu12 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Outfield seating, cheering the home team Posts: 378	Like Yerideki, I also use an SD card for my main game, but also sometimes use an external USB (spinning) disk, while the game itself is installed to my (internal) SSD. I love the portability of the SD card, and the fact that my (large) save games are not using space on my main drive, since I can keep it in my laptop more or less permanently. However, it is fairly slow on both reads and writes. For a small league this is not much of a problem, but if, say, you are writing the annual almanac for the full MLB it could take some time. Of course, it will depend on your computer, and SD card (or USB connection). Using an external disk (SD, USB, or something else) works fine, and once set up should be essentially transparent (as long as you remember to have the disk plugged in ). Cheers! -kr-

06-01-2018, 12:54 AM	#8
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	it's more than fast enough to load a game from it etc.. no worries on that. even if your current laptop only has a 2.0 usb port. once the game is running, and a leauge is loaded, it's not using the storage device much at all. if the ssd is faster than the usb3.0 connection allows, that's the part i'd be concerned about as far as bang for your buck -- ie you don't make use of ssd's speed and no different in performance than a less expensive portable hdd equivalent. pretty sure usb3 is <100mbytes/s? 1/4-1/5th the speed of an ssd max rate and just a bit shy of hdd read/write rates too. (*maybe the slow part (very small portion) of platter dips to 80mb/s on an hdd) and, if you only have a 2.0 connection available, that's 1/100th the speed of an ssd's max.