1871 Schedule

scott1964 · 03-19-2018, 06:56 PM

How do I get a schedule that works with the current 9 team system. I tried to load the one that comes with and it will not load.

joefromchicago · 03-19-2018, 07:37 PM

If you have your league set up to recreate the nine-team NA, the schedule that came with the game won't work, since that is set up for an imaginary two-subleague format. What you need to do is load the 1871 "as played" schedule (major_league_ml_c_1871_ap), which is also in the OOTP19 schedule folder. There are also a few nine-team schedules in the mods forum.

mitchkenn · 03-19-2018, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

If you have your league set up to recreate the nine-team NA, the schedule that came with the game won't work, since that is set up for an imaginary two-subleague format. What you need to do is load the 1871 "as played" schedule (major_league_ml_c_1871_ap), which is also in the OOTP19 schedule folder. There are also a few nine-team schedules in the mods forum.

here the link to the schedule mod .... it has a number of 9 team schedules. good luck.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=249096

scott1964 · 03-19-2018, 07:54 PM

Thanks for the pointers. But I tried the as played schedule and it will not work either. I saw an option to import each sub league. But not sure how that works.

scott1964 · 03-19-2018, 07:58 PM

Here is my out of the box setup.

joefromchicago · 03-19-2018, 08:10 PM

I took a quick look in the game and the 1871 setup is ... well, it's sub-optimal.

As mentioned before, the game creates an imaginary format of two leagues, one of four teams and one of five. The league default setting in the Options menu is for a 30-game season with no interleague play. But the ML schedule included with the game calls for a 32-game schedule and interleague play. So that schedule won't load unless you do some tweaking. Also, the schedule starts on day 18 rather than day 1 - I honestly don't know how that happened or if it has any effect on whether the schedule loads or not. In short, 1871 is a mess - but then so was the National Association, so that's accurate.

scott1964 · 03-19-2018, 08:19 PM

Looks like the setup are AL with 30 game and NL with 24 games. I don't have a problem with that but all the teams play all their games the whole month of April and then done. I guess I could make my own schedule.

Spritze · 03-19-2018, 08:22 PM

Make the schedule 32 games long, balanced and inter-league then load this one. For 1871.

Spritze · 03-19-2018, 08:24 PM

Make the schedule 60 games long, balanced and inter-league

Load this one for 1872-1874.

scott1964 · 03-19-2018, 08:26 PM

Thanks

Spritze · 03-19-2018, 08:26 PM

96 games balanced inter-league 1875-1881

Spritze · 03-19-2018, 08:27 PM

112 games balanced interleague 1882

after that the regular schedules will work

It seems as though the schedules got added before the default options got adjusted.

joefromchicago · 03-19-2018, 08:40 PM

Here's a quick conversion of the two-subleague schedule that comes with the game. It's modified for the actual set-up of the NA in 1871 - i.e. a single nine-team league. I haven't made any other changes to the schedule. Anyone using this schedule should change the default settings in the Options menu to a 32-game schedule and no interleague.

revised major_league_ml_c_1871.lsdl

RMc · 03-20-2018, 11:19 AM

Since we have the Federal League (and the Negro Leagues) in the game now as minor leagues, how about the same with the AA, UA and PL?

swampdragon · 03-20-2018, 11:37 AM

I think it may be possible to fool the game into accepting the as-played schedule.

1) Move all of the teams into one subleague.
2) Import the as-played schedule for that subleague.
3) Move the teams back the way they were.

The game warned me a couple of times, but it let me start playing. What I don't know is whether it will come back to bite me later.

scott1964 · 03-20-2018, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swampdragon

I think it may be possible to fool the game into accepting the as-played schedule.

1) Move all of the teams into one subleague.
2) Import the as-played schedule for that subleague.
3) Move the teams back the way they were.

The game warned me a couple of times, but it let me start playing. What I don't know is whether it will come back to bite me later.

I did those and it loaded the as played schedule. I am going to do some testing and see what transpires.

Spritze · 03-20-2018, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMc

Since we have the Federal League (and the Negro Leagues) in the game now as minor leagues, how about the same with the AA, UA and PL?

There are no current plans to add any minor/other leagues to the 19th or early 20th century in OOTP19. Some of those teams and ALL of those players are in the current MLB only iteration of the game however.

swampdragon · 03-20-2018, 05:20 PM

And I've started the annual 1901 replay. What did it was the 15 team major leagues from 1876-1881, a period of time when there were 6-8 real major league teams. The number of OOTP MLB teams never went down during the entire 19th century, when in reality the number went both up and down a number of times. If we can't contract teams OR leagues, then an accurate 19th century replay is simply impossible.

scott1964 · 03-20-2018, 05:27 PM

End of the 1871 Season

Here are the 1872 Teams

Spritze · 03-20-2018, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swampdragon

And I've started the annual 1901 replay. What did it was the 15 team major leagues from 1876-1881, a period of time when there were 6-8 real major league teams. The number of OOTP MLB teams never went down during the entire 19th century, when in reality the number went both up and down a number of times. If we can't contract teams OR leagues, then an accurate 19th century replay is simply impossible.

It is hoped you can still expand or contract by hand as you always have as well as anything else you have found workarounds for. OOTP 19 is just another step along the way. It is simply more fun to play for the non-exacto gamers. For the exactos it is neither here nor there. I am sure more steps will be taken in the future.

03-19-2018, 06:56 PM	#1
scott1964 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,626	1871 Schedule How do I get a schedule that works with the current 9 team system. I tried to load the one that comes with and it will not load. __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. PETA.....People Eating Tasty Animals.

03-19-2018, 07:37 PM	#2
joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,725	If you have your league set up to recreate the nine-team NA, the schedule that came with the game won't work, since that is set up for an imaginary two-subleague format. What you need to do is load the 1871 "as played" schedule (major_league_ml_c_1871_ap), which is also in the OOTP19 schedule folder. There are also a few nine-team schedules in the mods forum. __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules

03-19-2018, 07:54 PM	#4
scott1964 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,626	Thanks for the pointers. But I tried the as played schedule and it will not work either. I saw an option to import each sub league. But not sure how that works. __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. PETA.....People Eating Tasty Animals.

03-19-2018, 07:58 PM	#5
scott1964 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,626	Here is my out of the box setup. __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. PETA.....People Eating Tasty Animals.

03-19-2018, 08:10 PM	#6
joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,725	I took a quick look in the game and the 1871 setup is ... well, it's sub-optimal. As mentioned before, the game creates an imaginary format of two leagues, one of four teams and one of five. The league default setting in the Options menu is for a 30-game season with no interleague play. But the ML schedule included with the game calls for a 32-game schedule and interleague play. So that schedule won't load unless you do some tweaking. Also, the schedule starts on day 18 rather than day 1 - I honestly don't know how that happened or if it has any effect on whether the schedule loads or not. In short, 1871 is a mess - but then so was the National Association, so that's accurate. __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules

03-19-2018, 08:19 PM	#7
scott1964 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,626	Looks like the setup are AL with 30 game and NL with 24 games. I don't have a problem with that but all the teams play all their games the whole month of April and then done. I guess I could make my own schedule. __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. PETA.....People Eating Tasty Animals.

03-19-2018, 08:26 PM	#10
scott1964 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,626	Thanks __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. PETA.....People Eating Tasty Animals.

03-19-2018, 08:40 PM	#13
joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,725	Here's a quick conversion of the two-subleague schedule that comes with the game. It's modified for the actual set-up of the NA in 1871 - i.e. a single nine-team league. I haven't made any other changes to the schedule. Anyone using this schedule should change the default settings in the Options menu to a 32-game schedule and no interleague. revised major_league_ml_c_1871.lsdl __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules Last edited by joefromchicago; 03-19-2018 at 08:44 PM.

03-20-2018, 11:19 AM	#14
RMc All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,717	Since we have the Federal League (and the Negro Leagues) in the game now as minor leagues, how about the same with the AA, UA and PL? __________________ "We're all behind our baseball team..."

03-20-2018, 11:37 AM	#15
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,506	I think it may be possible to fool the game into accepting the as-played schedule. 1) Move all of the teams into one subleague. 2) Import the as-played schedule for that subleague. 3) Move the teams back the way they were. The game warned me a couple of times, but it let me start playing. What I don't know is whether it will come back to bite me later. __________________ “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." -- C.S. Lewis

03-20-2018, 05:20 PM	#18
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,506	And I've started the annual 1901 replay. What did it was the 15 team major leagues from 1876-1881, a period of time when there were 6-8 real major league teams. The number of OOTP MLB teams never went down during the entire 19th century, when in reality the number went both up and down a number of times. If we can't contract teams OR leagues, then an accurate 19th century replay is simply impossible. __________________ “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." -- C.S. Lewis

03-20-2018, 05:27 PM	#19
scott1964 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,626	End of the 1871 Season Here are the 1872 Teams __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. PETA.....People Eating Tasty Animals. Last edited by scott1964; 03-20-2018 at 05:29 PM.