Problem: game combined multiple league drafts, & not enough players created

[stevebydac]

Hi guys, I have a fictional test universe of 4 leagues I have 95% perfected except for a puzzling First Year Player Draft problem.

• All 4 fictional leagues have identical settings, with the only difference being 1 of the leagues has 24 teams while the others have 8 each. So the schedule is different for the 4th league but it runs on the same calendar as the other 3. I keep checking to see if I have any rogue settings but they all seem identical.
• Each league is based in a separate nation, and set to 100% players from that nation with no foreigners. No trading or free agents from other leagues.
• The 4 draft pools are revealed on the same day in June, and the drafts are on the same day in July. Preseason in December, Spring Training in January, Regular Season runs January to May.
• The July draft has all 48 teams from all 4 leagues in the same draft order, even though when you look at the League Events list for each league, the game has given the drafts separate names (Cuba 1st Year Player Draft, Taiwan 1st Year Player Draft, etc.) . I don't want a combined draft. I want 4 separate drafts.
• The draft pool creates players from only one of the 4 nations!! I do not have feeder leagues.
• I have experimented with 10, 15 and 20 rounds, always with extra players created for those rounds, but I always end up with 288 players in the draft pool, which interestingly is 6 players x my 48 teams = 288. Not sure what that signifies.
• After I sim the draft & examine a league's Draft Log afterward, it shows the combined results, not just that one league's results. (Cuban league team chose #1, Taiwan league team chose #2, Australian league team chose #3, etc). The drafted players do go only to their correct league, which is good.

Can you suggest a solution? What would be a setting I should double-check again? Was there perhaps a setting at game creation that I messed up that I can't see now? The oddest part is that only 1 of the 4 nations' players are being created for the draft pool. I can't see anything different in that nation's settings from the other 3.

Thank you.

[NoOne]

try having them 1,2,3,4 -- separate days.

review settings per league -- make sure to select each one to check each draft settings. same with the player settings for each league, since that's a goal.

if the gui reads fine, try making an new similar but simpler league to test... maybe it's just a 1-time problem during creation and your current league is corrupted somehow. if it works properly in the test, you know you have to recreate it. could try a template, but may also copy the problem over... worth a shot due to convenience.

when i start to make a new league i make templates along the way after i complete something that takes time/effort.. number and comment what has changed as you go in the file name. "1 basic settings" "2 league drafts set" etc.

this way you can go back to a certain point if somethign does get borked. can always delete them when done... if it's during game creation, it won't even be a large file. if you make a template after you create and enter league, it will be 200+MB template file including the players, if you load the template in future. (no players is key if you want a new start each time - league fills each time it's loaded that way, not a set that comes with it)

are these sub leagues? don't think you can have individual drafts for those.

[stevebydac]

Thanks NoOne.

try having them 1,2,3,4 -- separate days.

I tried separate draft days one year by manually setting the event dates in the calendars, but the game forced them all onto the same day. I will try that again though.

f the gui reads fine, try making an new similar but simpler league to test... maybe it's just a 1-time problem during creation and your current league is corrupted somehow. if it works properly in the test, you know you have to recreate it. could try a template, but may also copy the problem over... worth a shot due to convenience.

I'm guessing corruption as well. Probably a good idea to re-test a simpler version.

are these sub leagues? don't think you can have individual drafts for those.

No they are not sub-leagues of a larger league. Completely separate.

Here's another clue...I experimented one year just before the draft pool was announced: I had the game create free agents eligible for the draft.(for the 3 nations/leagues that weren't creating players before) And it worked -- though they were still combined in a 4-league draft. But it only did so if I manually used this method. It refused to do it on its own the next year.

[The Game]

What do you have in these draft screens? While right now I dont have the draft for these 2 leagues on the same day i dont hsve a shared draft as of right now either. i've never had a problem even when MLB and a now defunct CBF had the draft on the same day. Take some screenshots.

[stevebydac]

Thanks The Game

This 1st screen is exactly the same for three of my leagues (one league for Cuba, another for Taiwan, another for Madagascar). Madagascar is the league that supplies to a draft pool. The others do not, for some reason.

[stevebydac]

This next screen is for my 4th league, Australia. It has 24 teams (the others above have 8 each). Only difference on this screen is the number of independent free agents found (5 vs 2 for the other smaller leagues).

[stevebydac]

And here is my draft pool and draft order. Every player in the pool is from Madagascar. Note also that the title on the screen says "Association Grand-Ile Transactions" (the Madagascar league). That's what is shown when I click on the Australian league's Draft Pool, or any of the others. For some reason Madagascar "controls" the drafting process.

I have 48 total teams in the majors (8 x 3 leagues, plus 24 for Australia). You can see they are all in the Draft Order. Australia has AAA and AA. The other 3 leagues do not have minors, they have reserve rosters.

[The Game]

Questions
1. You changed the draft dates for each league right? Was each still dominated by Madagascar?
2. Each draft is for players from that league right?
3. It is not a shared draft correct?
4. Do you have any nationality differences in the draft setup?
5. Why dont you want a shared draft?

[stevebydac]

Originally Posted by The Game

Questions
1. You changed the draft dates for each league right? Was each still dominated by Madagascar?

Yes and yes.

2. Each draft is for players from that league right?

Yes, the intention is for Cuban league to draft only Cuban players, the Australian league to only draft Australian players, etc.

3. It is not a shared draft correct?

It is not supposed to be.

4. Do you have any nationality differences in the draft setup?

See #2. And also a screenshot above where you see that each league is 100% based on that nation's citizens.

5. Why dont you want a shared draft?

Since a league can only draft players from its own nation, I think it is visually cleaner to not have to see the other league's draft choices on the screen. For example, in my mind, I envisioned looking at the Cuban league's draft screen and only seeing 8 Cuban draft picks in the 1st round -- not accompanied by 40 other 1st round draft picks from the other 3 leagues.

I'm not dead-set against the above. I can deal with the aesthetic issue if need be. What bothers me a lot more is the fact that the draft pool is only getting fed automatically by one nation. It's not allowing my other 3 leagues to be replenished with new talent. The only workaround is for me to create new free agents eligible for the draft, and I'd need to do that every single season for each of the other 3 leagues.

[The Game]

I'll run a test later on but can you put just your .dats in a folder and zip them and post a link to them. mediafire is free. I dont have an answer at this point. Like i said I have done stuff similar to this in my WBC & EBL vs MLB league but dont have it anymore.

[NoOne]

the association settings clearly been checked and would solve his issues. never had one of those or seen that screen... go there, stevebydac

the players are setup to be from that particular country, and all other things seem to be as he wants them.

knowing why in this context doesn't help find a solution. not needed

[stevebydac]

Thanks guys. I appreciate the brainstorming. Probably the smartest bet now is to for me to table this league, and test out a similar yet simpler one. I have a heavy workload this week, so give me a few days to noodle with this and I'll report back with an update.

As always with OOTP, someone will run into this thread with a similar issue a year or 3 from now and hopefully we can provide a happy ending for me/them.

[abell1198]

Originally Posted by stevebydac

Thanks guys. I appreciate the brainstorming. Probably the smartest bet now is to for me to table this league, and test out a similar yet simpler one. I have a heavy workload this week, so give me a few days to noodle with this and I'll report back with an update.

As always with OOTP, someone will run into this thread with a similar issue a year or 3 from now and hopefully we can provide a happy ending for me/them.

If you have an association set up with your leagues, there is a setting in associations that you can check for a shared draft.

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