Do you trade Freeman out of a rebuilding team?

ForeverRoyalKC · 02-07-2018, 06:24 PM

I am GM'ing the Braves for the 2018 season as they finished 60-102 in 2017. Since Freddie Freeman is the star and on a rebuilding team, do you trade him for youth or keep him for when the youth movement gels into a winner??
Keep this in mind...I also have four draft picks in the first three rounds including two in the first round.

msupoke · 02-07-2018, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoyalKC

I am GM'ing the Braves for the 2018 season as they finished 60-102 in 2017. Since Freddie Freeman is the star and on a rebuilding team, do you trade him for youth or keep him for when the youth movement gels into a winner??
Keep this in mind...I also have four draft picks in the first three rounds including two in the first round.

It depends on the return.

DD Martin · 02-10-2018, 10:09 PM

I would always listen on any player on a team with a significant rebuild. Contract status is always a factor in these as well. Will the player still be under contract when your target date of fielding a contending team? In Freeman's case he is under contract for 4 more years. Since the Braves are not over burdened with payroll that should work. But if you want to be a big player in free agency after the 2018 season for the Harper, Machado and others then you might have to look at your budget.

In my mind yes I would listen to offers as the Braves likely will not be a serious contender in the NL until 2020. But I would have to be presented an offer that includes several top prospects that would be ready to help me win in 2020 in order to ship him out. Otherwise I would hang onto him and play out the 2018 season and re-evaluate next off-season.

ThePretender · 02-11-2018, 09:51 AM

The Braves should be pretty close to competing by 2018. Depends what you can get for him, but he might be a key piece on a contender.

Shoeless' Socks · 02-11-2018, 10:28 AM

Your fan interest will plummet, but IMO its easier to find a 1B on the game that can hit 25 HR than it is to find an SP (potential return) that will put up an ERA in the 3s. It's a tough call and there are arguments both ways...

r0nster · 02-11-2018, 11:44 AM

I agree with MSU it depends on what kind of return you get in trade.

jpeters1734 · 02-11-2018, 04:00 PM

i'll never understand why real GM's and fake GM's feel that you must trade all talent during a rebuild. Wouldn't Freeman be an excellent example for the young guys as they transition to MLB life? Keep Freeman

NoOne · 02-11-2018, 04:41 PM

all about context...

if mil barren and no real talent in system, even a 5year contract might not be long enough for that player to see the rise..

if it's imminent, they keep those types of players... take a look at detroit... a 5+year rebuild and even then no gaurantee they are relevant in 5 years... if that were gauranteed there'd be a much more even distribution of WS titles. They are not keeping anyone even if in their prime for next ~5 years.. no reason to keep them and lose them for nothing in return during a time period of non-playoff caliber teams.

so, a talented player on a losing team provides no benefit.. that's why they trade them... of course some are not very smart or imaginative and make the wrong decision about the player... it's just not as obvious as it is in the video game.

no excuse for mistakenly selling off a piece you could have used in ootp... at least nothing like RL.

selling a player before their raitngs dip is key too... no one wants a 32-year old with 100M left on contract... but a 28/29 even ~30 year old with no large dips in ratings, yet, is palatable to many teams.

pgjocki · 02-11-2018, 11:43 PM

Since the game doesn't have any mechanism to allow you to save money it doesn't make much financial sense to trade guys away unless you are just after the prospects.

Now, if there was an option to reduce payroll for a few years and "bank" it so when I want to splash 3 years later I can access the bank and bump up spending by $60 million I would be all in. As it stands now, I do this manually if I am rebuilding by reducing what the owner gives me and then add it in later.

wallewalls · 02-19-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

i'll never understand why real GM's and fake GM's feel that you must trade all talent during a rebuild. Wouldn't Freeman be an excellent example for the young guys as they transition to MLB life? Keep Freeman

in the past, the braves GM said he would never trade Freeman, so yeah they do it in real life

r0nster · 02-19-2018, 12:01 PM

yes they would trade freeman if the return is good enough or tempting enough. real GMs would say NEVER. But that's just a bargaining chip as a way of trying to get teams to give more as it works more often than not. When a team like the current Tiger GM said last winter (2016-17) every player on the block. That would cheapen your return on trades as you do not see them getting anything in trades from that point on including Verlander trade. I approved the Verlander trade as I been wanting him gone while he was worth something as he been injuried 3 times in real life. Point is GMs have a big mouth and can hurt or help a team position in trades

02-07-2018, 06:24 PM	#1
ForeverRoyalKC All Star Starter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Hop, skip and a jump from Pomme De Terre Lake, MO. Posts: 1,223	Do you trade Freeman out of a rebuilding team? I am GM'ing the Braves for the 2018 season as they finished 60-102 in 2017. Since Freddie Freeman is the star and on a rebuilding team, do you trade him for youth or keep him for when the youth movement gels into a winner?? Keep this in mind...I also have four draft picks in the first three rounds including two in the first round.

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NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	all about context... if mil barren and no real talent in system, even a 5year contract might not be long enough for that player to see the rise.. if it's imminent, they keep those types of players... take a look at detroit... a 5+year rebuild and even then no gaurantee they are relevant in 5 years... if that were gauranteed there'd be a much more even distribution of WS titles. They are not keeping anyone even if in their prime for next ~5 years.. no reason to keep them and lose them for nothing in return during a time period of non-playoff caliber teams. so, a talented player on a losing team provides no benefit.. that's why they trade them... of course some are not very smart or imaginative and make the wrong decision about the player... it's just not as obvious as it is in the video game. no excuse for mistakenly selling off a piece you could have used in ootp... at least nothing like RL. selling a player before their raitngs dip is key too... no one wants a 32-year old with 100M left on contract... but a 28/29 even ~30 year old with no large dips in ratings, yet, is palatable to many teams. Last edited by NoOne; 02-11-2018 at 04:45 PM.

02-11-2018, 11:43 PM	#9
pgjocki All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Maryland - just outside DC Posts: 1,674	Since the game doesn't have any mechanism to allow you to save money it doesn't make much financial sense to trade guys away unless you are just after the prospects. Now, if there was an option to reduce payroll for a few years and "bank" it so when I want to splash 3 years later I can access the bank and bump up spending by $60 million I would be all in. As it stands now, I do this manually if I am rebuilding by reducing what the owner gives me and then add it in later. __________________ - - - World Series championships: 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, 2011

02-10-2018, 10:09 PM	#3
DD Martin All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Seattle area Posts: 1,026	I would always listen on any player on a team with a significant rebuild. Contract status is always a factor in these as well. Will the player still be under contract when your target date of fielding a contending team? In Freeman's case he is under contract for 4 more years. Since the Braves are not over burdened with payroll that should work. But if you want to be a big player in free agency after the 2018 season for the Harper, Machado and others then you might have to look at your budget. In my mind yes I would listen to offers as the Braves likely will not be a serious contender in the NL until 2020. But I would have to be presented an offer that includes several top prospects that would be ready to help me win in 2020 in order to ship him out. Otherwise I would hang onto him and play out the 2018 season and re-evaluate next off-season.

02-11-2018, 09:51 AM	#4
ThePretender All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,331	The Braves should be pretty close to competing by 2018. Depends what you can get for him, but he might be a key piece on a contender.

02-11-2018, 10:28 AM	#5
Shoeless' Socks Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 164	Your fan interest will plummet, but IMO its easier to find a 1B on the game that can hit 25 HR than it is to find an SP (potential return) that will put up an ERA in the 3s. It's a tough call and there are arguments both ways...

02-11-2018, 11:44 AM	#6
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,081	I agree with MSU it depends on what kind of return you get in trade.

02-19-2018, 12:01 PM	#11
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,081	yes they would trade freeman if the return is good enough or tempting enough. real GMs would say NEVER. But that's just a bargaining chip as a way of trying to get teams to give more as it works more often than not. When a team like the current Tiger GM said last winter (2016-17) every player on the block. That would cheapen your return on trades as you do not see them getting anything in trades from that point on including Verlander trade. I approved the Verlander trade as I been wanting him gone while he was worth something as he been injuried 3 times in real life. Point is GMs have a big mouth and can hurt or help a team position in trades