Popularity issue

[Rosco Peabody]

One thing I have seen that doesn't make a ton of sense is that I've seen players who are "extremely popular" one season drop in ratings and be far lower only two seasons later to "insignificant" or something.

I feel like there should be a floor to how low a player's popularity can get after they have achieved some certain rank, maybe that it can't get two spot lower than the highest one they've achieved or something, at least for Local Popularity.

Just because a player has a dip in stats doesn't mean people forget who they are.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Rosco Peabody

One thing I have seen that doesn't make a ton of sense is that I've seen players who are "extremely popular" one season drop in ratings and be far lower only two seasons later to "insignificant" or something.

I feel like there should be a floor to how low a player's popularity can get after they have achieved some certain rank, maybe that it can't get two spot lower than the highest one they've achieved or something, at least for Local Popularity.

Just because a player has a dip in stats doesn't mean people forget who they are.

I'd use Joe Maur as an example that proves the point of decline in both performance and popularity. Bryce Harper with a down season followed by an injury season is not as popular as he was in 2015.

[Rosco Peabody]

Originally Posted by RchW

I'd use Joe Maur as an example that proves the point of decline in both performance and popularity. Bryce Harper with a down season followed by an injury season is not as popular as he was in 2015.

I definitely think there should be a dip, but I don't think it should be as drastic. Obviously if a guys stinks for awhile it can happen, but if a guy goes from being great to being simply decent, it shouldn't kill his ratings, should it?

[Rosco Peabody]

And maybe one other thing. If a guy is a bench player, obviously he won't have high popularity, but if he stays with the same team for more than a few years, shouldn't his local popularity rise above unknown?

[Rosco Peabody]

As I'm looking through my fictional league, maybe it's not as big of a deal as I thought. Maybe you're right.

[msupoke]

Maybe allow the drop, but have it tied to a story line... That may require a complete reworking of personalities, clubhouse chemistry, etc.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Rosco Peabody

I definitely think there should be a dip, but I don't think it should be as drastic. Obviously if a guys stinks for awhile it can happen, but if a guy goes from being great to being simply decent, it shouldn't kill his ratings, should it?

For popularity yes IMO not actual baseball ratings. I follow baseball and kind of forgot that Mauer existed last year. I doubt if I'm unique. Popularity may be a zero sum game. I certainly felt that Aaron Judge sucked up a lot of the available buzz last year which affected my interest in the game as a whole.

[SirMichaelJordan]

I haven’t notice any drastic changes and i follow popularity pretty closely. I would like to see long time clubhouse players raise in local popularity more often though.


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[msupoke]

Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

I haven’t notice any drastic changes and i follow popularity pretty closely. I would like to see long time clubhouse players raise in local popularity more often though.


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Agreed. We Astros fans have seen Altuve grow in national popularity recently, but that is due to his performance. Jake Marisnick is wildly popular here in Houston (mainly due to his personality) but is not really known outside of our fan base. He was a mystery to most of us when we got him in a trade a few years back, but over time, he has started to become more of a presence locally.

[itsmb8]

Originally Posted by msupoke

Agreed. We Astros fans have seen Altuve grow in national popularity recently, but that is due to his performance. Jake Marisnick is wildly popular here in Houston (mainly due to his personality) but is not really known outside of our fan base. He was a mystery to most of us when we got him in a trade a few years back, but over time, he has started to become more of a presence locally.

Another example is Brett Phillips in Milwaukee. Only made his debut this past season, but is already really popular around the fanbase (partly due to his laugh, but still).

My question is, does local popularity only reflect his popularity with that team, or his popularity around the entire organization's fanbase?

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Rosco Peabody

As I'm looking through my fictional league, maybe it's not as big of a deal as I thought. Maybe you're right.

I just checked 5 players in my league that were former MVP's or CYA winners and none are below popular, despite .210 averages or 6.30 ERA's over the last several seasons. Leadership is really high on these players though.

[Brad K]

Originally Posted by Rosco Peabody

I definitely think there should be a dip, but I don't think it should be as drastic. Obviously if a guys stinks for awhile it can happen, but if a guy goes from being great to being simply decent, it shouldn't kill his ratings, should it?

You're right. For recent real life examples, see the fan reactions to their teams losing Andrew McCutchen and Evan Longoria.