Major Bug - Ruined Season Because of Player Ejection

Jays Fan · 03-12-2003, 08:06 PM

I was really disappointed with this one. I had already used all of my bench in a DH game. My last hitter got into an argument with the ump and got thrown out of the game. When I tried to replace him with a pitcher, the game inserted the pitcher into the game but wouldn't put him into the lineup. When I tried to move my DH to a position, it said that I couldn't do it because my pitcher would have to bat (which I would rather have than forfeit the game).

After trying to do everything possible, there was no way for me to resume the game because it kept telling me incomplete lineup. So, I bumped out. When I came back in, the game in question shows as not being played but all stats from that game are now mixed in with the player stats already accumulated, thus ruining the accumulated season stats for my team and making the game disappointing.

Does anyone know of a way to overcome this? In real baseball, if my last hitter gets thrown out, even in the AL, I can easily bring in a pitcher to play LF or whatever.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-12-2003, 09:04 PM

One way around the problem you had w/i the game situation is to change the pitcher to a position player (unless you are playing manager mode). I really don't have an answer to the problem with the league file. An editor is being worked on "I believe" but not certain and no idea when it will be completed.

Jays Fan · 03-12-2003, 09:08 PM

No, I was playing manager mode and I did try to move the pitcher to a position and it wouldn't let me.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-12-2003, 09:10 PM

I didn't phrase it properly, I should have said "use the editor to change his position".

Jays Fan · 03-12-2003, 11:01 PM

Again, not possible because I was in manager mode, where the editor is disabled. Basically, I was out of luck and what made it worse is that it didn't just let me lose the game I was on but instead made me lose the game AND counted all compiled stats from the lost game with no way to reverse them as they mixed in with other completed games from my manager career. Needless to say, if I ever play this game again, I'm inclined to back up the entire directory each and every day, which is something you wouldn't think a game would require you to do.

The point of my post was to draw attention to the bug that if your last player goes down because of ejection or injury, you should be allowed to put a pitcher into his position. If not, at least as an inferior but possible solution, the game should prevent a player from getting thrown out of the game when there are no players left.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-12-2003, 11:11 PM

I have added this situation to our "list" of issues, but no promises of the outcome.

Jays Fan · 03-12-2003, 11:14 PM

Just trying to help identify problems. I should clarify that after further review, the stats that are mucked up are games played only, for both pitchers and batters. It seems that the at bats, etc... weren't counted but that the games were increased. It leads me to believe that games/appearances get put into the compiled file the moment a player appears in a game but that the actual performance stats, even innings or at bats, don't get compiled until game's end. Thanks for the responses!

Steve Kuffrey · 03-12-2003, 11:22 PM

I appreciate the input, hope that we can find some sort of solution.

03-12-2003, 08:06 PM	#1
Jays Fan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 70	Major Bug - Ruined Season Because of Player Ejection I was really disappointed with this one. I had already used all of my bench in a DH game. My last hitter got into an argument with the ump and got thrown out of the game. When I tried to replace him with a pitcher, the game inserted the pitcher into the game but wouldn't put him into the lineup. When I tried to move my DH to a position, it said that I couldn't do it because my pitcher would have to bat (which I would rather have than forfeit the game). After trying to do everything possible, there was no way for me to resume the game because it kept telling me incomplete lineup. So, I bumped out. When I came back in, the game in question shows as not being played but all stats from that game are now mixed in with the player stats already accumulated, thus ruining the accumulated season stats for my team and making the game disappointing. Does anyone know of a way to overcome this? In real baseball, if my last hitter gets thrown out, even in the AL, I can easily bring in a pitcher to play LF or whatever.

03-12-2003, 09:04 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	One way around the problem you had w/i the game situation is to change the pitcher to a position player (unless you are playing manager mode). I really don't have an answer to the problem with the league file. An editor is being worked on "I believe" but not certain and no idea when it will be completed. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-12-2003, 09:10 PM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I didn't phrase it properly, I should have said "use the editor to change his position". __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-12-2003, 11:11 PM	#6
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I have added this situation to our "list" of issues, but no promises of the outcome. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-12-2003, 11:22 PM	#8
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I appreciate the input, hope that we can find some sort of solution. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-12-2003, 09:08 PM	#3
Jays Fan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 70	No, I was playing manager mode and I did try to move the pitcher to a position and it wouldn't let me.

03-12-2003, 11:01 PM	#5
Jays Fan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 70	Again, not possible because I was in manager mode, where the editor is disabled. Basically, I was out of luck and what made it worse is that it didn't just let me lose the game I was on but instead made me lose the game AND counted all compiled stats from the lost game with no way to reverse them as they mixed in with other completed games from my manager career. Needless to say, if I ever play this game again, I'm inclined to back up the entire directory each and every day, which is something you wouldn't think a game would require you to do. The point of my post was to draw attention to the bug that if your last player goes down because of ejection or injury, you should be allowed to put a pitcher into his position. If not, at least as an inferior but possible solution, the game should prevent a player from getting thrown out of the game when there are no players left.

03-12-2003, 11:14 PM	#7
Jays Fan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 70	Just trying to help identify problems. I should clarify that after further review, the stats that are mucked up are games played only, for both pitchers and batters. It seems that the at bats, etc... weren't counted but that the games were increased. It leads me to believe that games/appearances get put into the compiled file the moment a player appears in a game but that the actual performance stats, even innings or at bats, don't get compiled until game's end. Thanks for the responses!