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Old 08-14-2017, 02:06 PM   #1
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How fast can you sim 100 seasons?

I have a really old gateway dx 4860 with a
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz, 3001 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

I'm not sure how good that is anymore I'm wondering how fast it would be on like a more recent processor? It took me almost 10 hours to sim the 100 seasons. Also how much faster are the newer processors than the one I just listed I have? I definitely think its time to get a new pc asap.

Like any guesses on how long 100 seasons would take on a newer processor out thats under 1k? According to my math it took about 6 minutes to sim each season with my prcoessor, can some people sim a whole season in under a minute?
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:32 PM   #2
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Before you can get an accurate answer you need to define your league a bit more. Are you doing MLB from the beginning where you have 60 years of 16 teams and only a reserve roster or are you simming into the future with 30 teams and 6 or 7 levels of minors etc.

More teams/leagues takes more time.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:01 PM   #3
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Before you can get an accurate answer you need to define your league a bit more. Are you doing MLB from the beginning where you have 60 years of 16 teams and only a reserve roster or are you simming into the future with 30 teams and 6 or 7 levels of minors etc.

More teams/leagues takes more time.
So its the standard 30 teams and full minor league system from rookie to triple A. Its full 2017 mlb setup but I just set the year to 1900 and simmed to 1999 and plan on playing in year 2000 with 100 years of history.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:21 PM   #4
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I'm running on an i5-6600k, it is not currently overclocked.

I only simulated a single season, but I started a league like yours, modern setup in 1900. I kept the absolute default settings save for creation of baseball cards, and from draft to the end-of-year save I clocked 2:48. I think the inaugural draft was about 30-45 seconds.
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:03 PM   #5
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can some people sim a whole season in under a minute?
Not likely.

My laptop has an i7 6700 HQ. With 30 teams and full minors in 1900 with inaugural draft, BB Cards off, time to sim a full calendar year from Jan 1 - Jan 1 it took:
1st year - 3:55
2nd year - 3:41
3rd year - 4:00

My desktop has i7 7700K. same game settings
1st year- 3:20
2nd year- 3:04
3rd year- 3:13
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an old i7-2600k with a 'cheaper' ssd. 2010 or 2011 pc.

depending on size of league, let's say ~20-40ish teams playing 162g, it's ~2+ mins to 4mins a season when i chop things down. when i do a long term sim i am keeping the stats, but not much else. (no international leagues, no indepependents, no feeders). i am not one for asthetics, but do keep 'more stuff' when i play seasons out... it's a tad slower... maybe 3.5-5mins with more fluff... probably 5-7+ with the full monty.

turning things off really helps.. save the history and all that you want, but you don't need face pics until you open a profile eh? there may be a ~1000players of note, but 100,000 nobodies that you will never look at in those 100 years.

after the 100 years are simed, turn the asthetic stuff back on that you normally like, but on demand during is a good idea.

also, if oyu don't care about as much depth in stats tracking in MiL, lower that in Stats and AI settings for each MiL league.

don't sacrifice anything of value, but defintieyl take a stroll through the settings before doing any longer-term / hands-off simulation. there's important fluff and fluff that can wait until a later date. ie boxscores and replays can rebuild all? don't quote me on last one, just read what the game says. if it can be 'rebuilt', it's there without it being saved 100,000 times over 100 years.

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Old 08-15-2017, 05:22 PM   #7
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Not likely.
Wow I'm surprised because I believe they say speed doubles every year for cpus right? Well my processor is at least 5-6 years old so the processors out now should be like doubled in speed each year for 6 years making me assume getting through a year in under a minute would be possible. So its interesting there hasn't been much improvement in cpu processing speed over the last 5-6 years. Thanks for the tests you did though.
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I had 18' previously installed on an older Asus laptop purchased back in 2010, before doing a clean install of Windows on it. It has an Intel Core i7 1st Gen 720QM (1.60 GHz). It has Turbo Boost. Of course I never timed it to see how long it would take to sim a full year but offhand I would guess less than 4 1/2 - 5 minutes. Certainly nothing too long that had me thinking "this is taking forever".
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Wow I'm surprised because I believe they say speed doubles every year for cpus right? Well my processor is at least 5-6 years old so the processors out now should be like doubled in speed each year for 6 years making me assume getting through a year in under a minute would be possible. So its interesting there hasn't been much improvement in cpu processing speed over the last 5-6 years. Thanks for the tests you did though.
Just curious, but who's they? Speed might double, but programs/games/software also improve in depth and other areas, thus requiring more processing power/speed. It's not so simple as 1 thing improving while everything else doesn't
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Old 08-15-2017, 07:26 PM   #10
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Just curious, but who's they? Speed might double, but programs/games/software also improve in depth and other areas, thus requiring more processing power/speed. It's not so simple as 1 thing improving while everything else doesn't

Moore's law refers to an observation made by Intel co-founder Gordon Moore in 1965. He noticed that the number of transistors per square inch on integrated circuits had doubled every year since their invention. Moore's law predicts that this trend will continue into the foreseeable future.

Not sure if its still true but there it is.
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Not likely.

My laptop has an i7 6700 HQ. With 30 teams and full minors in 1900 with inaugural draft, BB Cards off, time to sim a full calendar year from Jan 1 - Jan 1 it took:
1st year - 3:55
2nd year - 3:41
3rd year - 4:00

My desktop has i7 7700K. same game settings
1st year- 3:20
2nd year- 3:04
3rd year- 3:13
What was your auto save setting at? Disk and memory have a huge performance impact on OOTP. Disk because OOTP writes a ton of data and memory because as the history of the league grows OOTP keeps much of that in RAM.
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What was your auto save setting at? Disk and memory have a huge performance impact on OOTP. Disk because OOTP writes a ton of data and memory because as the history of the league grows OOTP keeps much of that in RAM.
Other than turning off BB Cards, everything was left at default. I've never changed any of those settings. Things could run much faster if I wanted I'm sure. I chose to install all Steam files on my Data drive instead of my SSD, but I prefer to keep the SSD for the operating system. What are the recommended settings?
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Other than turning off BB Cards, everything was left at default. I've never changed any of those settings. Things could run much faster if I wanted I'm sure. I chose to install all Steam files on my Data drive instead of my SSD, but I prefer to keep the SSD for the operating system. What are the recommended settings?
OOTP is the one game that I let store data on the SSD because it writes so much to disk. When doing 100 year sims, I set auto save to once a year, turn off all game logs, box scores, face gen, and BBcards. Then we I get to 15 years before I want to start I turn all those back on. Makes the first 85 years go by much faster.
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