Building the roster

Heisenberg · 05-11-2017, 04:38 PM

I am now trying to build a roster by myself and since there are hardly any comprehensive guides available, I'd like to ask here.

1. Pinch hitters and pinch runners - How to choose who should take these positions?
2. Hitters - if I'm not mistaken, I should have my best hitter as 3rd in my lineup, followed by 4th and 5th, then the 1-3 and the u proven ones 8-9, is that correct?
3. Which stats are the most important for bases and which for the fielders?
4. Are there any tips for playing against teams with good offence like 1950 Yankees?
5. How can I stop Joe DiMaggio? What kind of players would be the best for that?

TheMaus2 · 05-11-2017, 05:59 PM

1. Bench roles
Get specialists. Someone who specializes in power, someone in speed, someone who can put bat to ball, or someone who can hit leftys/hits well left handed.

2. Yes, this is kind of accurate. I'll link some threads that deal with this topic later.

3. For fielding, UZR is the stuff. Bases, I really don't know, stolen bases?

4. Good offense can only be stopped by one thing: Good defense. Quality pitching gets you more wins than quality hitting.

TheMaus2 · 05-11-2017, 06:04 PM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ghlight=Lineup

Heisenberg · 05-11-2017, 09:03 PM

Another one: I've got a great pitcher, but a very lousy secondary catcher - how important is he for my defense?

TheMaus2 · 05-11-2017, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Another one: I've got a great pitcher, but a very lousy secondary catcher - how important is he for my defense?

Well, if you have a bad starting catcher, I'd be a little bit worried. Catcher is important because he can prevent base runners from moving when the ball isn't in play. A passed ball could cost you in crucial situations. So will stolen bases. But really, it depends on the situation that you're in. Is he your starter or your backup? Can I have a look at his ratings?

gbwitheyes · 05-11-2017, 10:32 PM

The topic of baseball lineups could easily be a 100 page thread just on its own and still there would be material wanting. I would suggest starting with this page.

Heisenberg · 05-13-2017, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMaus2

Well, if you have a bad starting catcher, I'd be a little bit worried. Catcher is important because he can prevent base runners from moving when the ball isn't in play. A passed ball could cost you in crucial situations. So will stolen bases. But really, it depends on the situation that you're in. Is he your starter or your backup? Can I have a look at his ratings?

My main catcher is good - he gets 3,5 stars (please tell me which of these stats matter the most for him)
Contact - 50/55
Gap Power - 45/50
Home run power - 45/50
Eye/discipline - 45/65
Avoid K's - 65/70

Catcher abil. - 65
Catcher arm - 70

The second guy is bad (one star)
Contact - 40/40
Gap power - 45/45
Home run power - 50/50
Eye/discipline - 55/55
Avoid K's - 60/60

Catcher abil. - 45
Catcher arm - 45

He gets only 35 rating as a catcher.

Basically I got him from Washington Senators on April 28 and on June 1 my scout reported that hus overal and potential ratings dropped from 2.5 to 1.5 stars and on August 1st from 1.5 to 1.0 stars. Is it because before the trade they didn't really knew how good he was and now they can see him and are not amazed to say the least?

Hemi425HP · 05-13-2017, 04:44 PM

I'd say your starting catcher is pretty strong. Well above average defensively, and not a liability with the bat. Your backup catcher is below average defensively and offensively, but not by a tremendous amount. Depending on the age of the starter I would try to groom a better backup (or platoon) catcher in the minors. in the same position I wouldn't worry too much about my catching situation and put more focus on closing up other places on my team where I'm deficient.

TheMaus2 · 05-15-2017, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hemi425HP

I'd say your starting catcher is pretty strong. Well above average defensively, and not a liability with the bat. Your backup catcher is below average defensively and offensively, but not by a tremendous amount. Depending on the age of the starter I would try to groom a better backup (or platoon) catcher in the minors. in the same position I wouldn't worry too much about my catching situation and put more focus on closing up other places on my team where I'm deficient.

this. Keep your backup catcher.

NoOne · 05-15-2017, 03:29 PM

I have lowest possible expectations of bench players. it keeps me realistic about them. i go the specialize / defense route, too. i rarely worry about a power bat, unless it's a prospect developing in MLB. i won't spend 5-8million on a player for ~20-30games and a few hr a likely terrible hitter overall... not worth it in my experience. might as well go to vegas and put it all on 1 spin of the rhoulette wheel, lol.

with catchers i tende to go with extremes, only because having both offense and defense is difficult to find.

e.g. if they are weak on defense, they better be perrenial all-star hitters to make up for any defficiency.

c, ss, cf are about the only positions i consider defense as more than an afterthough... but, that's amodern mlb defensive environment... take fielding pct% down and ... well, at some point i am making a mistake by thinking that way, lol.

backup catcher i solely focus on defense, becasue i play them as little as possible.

don't worry about overall... worry about ability (it does correlate, though).

as far as how to play a team -- when you have a good strategy it's not a black and white decision process... you plug some variables into how you perceive the probabilities of various results and make the best decision relative to the context of the situation.

always some sort of break-even analysis that provides the decision horizon

y=mx+b -- describes every straight line relative to 2 axes. (i had to look up plural of axis, lol). same concept.

The biggest thing you can do to maintain high-quality team is in how you handle contracts and aging. you need to plan the turnover of your team, not let it happen willy-nilly. learn when to let players go... the right way to run an organization may cost wins this year but gain wins the next 5-10 because of that decision.

if i have a SS with a 5+ year contract, i am trying to line up multiple options as early as year one of their extension (18y.o. draftee, e.g). i will have multiple options brewing, if possible... and trade any excess. a FA is a fall-back plan, typically.

perceive time well... use it, pay attention to it. plan ahead... 5-7 years if necessary. expect most of them to fail... hope one comes through, lol.

NoOne · 05-15-2017, 08:44 PM

lol, i thought of a much simpler way to describe things...

if you can step back and look at your process and cycle of behaviour and see a snake eating its own tail... you are doing it right

just like that SS example, nothing is wasted. think ahead. recycle prospects before you lose them etc etc... the only players that should "just leave" are players you cut or are completely worthless or the FA compensation outwieghs anythign you can do with them.

05-11-2017, 04:38 PM	#1
Heisenberg Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 25	Building the roster I am now trying to build a roster by myself and since there are hardly any comprehensive guides available, I'd like to ask here. 1. Pinch hitters and pinch runners - How to choose who should take these positions? 2. Hitters - if I'm not mistaken, I should have my best hitter as 3rd in my lineup, followed by 4th and 5th, then the 1-3 and the u proven ones 8-9, is that correct? 3. Which stats are the most important for bases and which for the fielders? 4. Are there any tips for playing against teams with good offence like 1950 Yankees? 5. How can I stop Joe DiMaggio? What kind of players would be the best for that?

05-11-2017, 05:59 PM	#2
TheMaus2 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The OOTP Forums. Always. Posts: 1,951	1. Bench roles Get specialists. Someone who specializes in power, someone in speed, someone who can put bat to ball, or someone who can hit leftys/hits well left handed. 2. Yes, this is kind of accurate. I'll link some threads that deal with this topic later. 3. For fielding, UZR is the stuff. Bases, I really don't know, stolen bases? 4. Good offense can only be stopped by one thing: Good defense. Quality pitching gets you more wins than quality hitting. __________________ I write a monthly newsletter on the Food Baseball Association. I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative.

05-11-2017, 06:04 PM	#3
TheMaus2 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The OOTP Forums. Always. Posts: 1,951	http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ghlight=Lineup __________________ I write a monthly newsletter on the Food Baseball Association. I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative.

05-11-2017, 10:32 PM	#6
gbwitheyes Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 271	Baseball lineups The topic of baseball lineups could easily be a 100 page thread just on its own and still there would be material wanting. I would suggest starting with this page. Last edited by gbwitheyes; 05-12-2017 at 05:14 AM.

05-13-2017, 04:44 PM	#8
Hemi425HP Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 202	I'd say your starting catcher is pretty strong. Well above average defensively, and not a liability with the bat. Your backup catcher is below average defensively and offensively, but not by a tremendous amount. Depending on the age of the starter I would try to groom a better backup (or platoon) catcher in the minors. in the same position I wouldn't worry too much about my catching situation and put more focus on closing up other places on my team where I'm deficient. __________________

05-11-2017, 09:03 PM	#4
Heisenberg Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 25	Another one: I've got a great pitcher, but a very lousy secondary catcher - how important is he for my defense?

05-15-2017, 03:29 PM	#10
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	I have lowest possible expectations of bench players. it keeps me realistic about them. i go the specialize / defense route, too. i rarely worry about a power bat, unless it's a prospect developing in MLB. i won't spend 5-8million on a player for ~20-30games and a few hr a likely terrible hitter overall... not worth it in my experience. might as well go to vegas and put it all on 1 spin of the rhoulette wheel, lol. with catchers i tende to go with extremes, only because having both offense and defense is difficult to find. e.g. if they are weak on defense, they better be perrenial all-star hitters to make up for any defficiency. c, ss, cf are about the only positions i consider defense as more than an afterthough... but, that's amodern mlb defensive environment... take fielding pct% down and ... well, at some point i am making a mistake by thinking that way, lol. backup catcher i solely focus on defense, becasue i play them as little as possible. don't worry about overall... worry about ability (it does correlate, though). as far as how to play a team -- when you have a good strategy it's not a black and white decision process... you plug some variables into how you perceive the probabilities of various results and make the best decision relative to the context of the situation. always some sort of break-even analysis that provides the decision horizon y=mx+b -- describes every straight line relative to 2 axes. (i had to look up plural of axis, lol). same concept. The biggest thing you can do to maintain high-quality team is in how you handle contracts and aging. you need to plan the turnover of your team, not let it happen willy-nilly. learn when to let players go... the right way to run an organization may cost wins this year but gain wins the next 5-10 because of that decision. if i have a SS with a 5+ year contract, i am trying to line up multiple options as early as year one of their extension (18y.o. draftee, e.g). i will have multiple options brewing, if possible... and trade any excess. a FA is a fall-back plan, typically. perceive time well... use it, pay attention to it. plan ahead... 5-7 years if necessary. expect most of them to fail... hope one comes through, lol. Last edited by NoOne; 05-15-2017 at 03:41 PM.

05-15-2017, 08:44 PM	#11
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	lol, i thought of a much simpler way to describe things... if you can step back and look at your process and cycle of behaviour and see a snake eating its own tail... you are doing it right just like that SS example, nothing is wasted. think ahead. recycle prospects before you lose them etc etc... the only players that should "just leave" are players you cut or are completely worthless or the FA compensation outwieghs anythign you can do with them. Last edited by NoOne; 05-15-2017 at 08:46 PM.