Questions about tournaments

[hobbitrjw]

I'm curious to know more about how this will work. Will we be able to make a game world that has nothing but our custom tournament in it? Is it a stand alone game mode?

Also since we are able to create international WBC style tournaments. Are generic National teams being inclued in the game and how is players home nation being used?

[dave1927p]

You sir just blew my mind. A game with no actual league, only multiple tournaments. I'm curious to this as well now

[thorpegiovanni]

Originally Posted by hobbitrjw

I'm curious to know more about how this will work. Will we be able to make a game world that has nothing but our custom tournament in it? Is it a stand alone game mode?

No, tournaments are only available within games with leagues.

Originally Posted by hobbitrjw

Also since we are able to create international WBC style tournaments. Are generic National teams being inclued in the game and how is players home nation being used?

Yes, you can create WBC and Olympics. There are even quickstarts, just under different names. Generic national teams are included, you can choose how often players will accept the invitation to join the team. Also AFL.

[hobbitrjw]

Looks like the best way to create a game world with only tournaments taking the spotlight is to create one with a single league you can ignore/play through fast to get to a tournament.

I assume tournaments are a option with custom and historical too correct?

Would be nice to see just a "Tournament mode you can pull teams from saved games from to create.

[spleen1015]

He said there had to be leagues but does the league have to play any games?

[BBGiovanni]

I was going to post this in the similar question thread I put up a few days ago... how will the WBC figure out who plays for which teams? Israel, Italy etc. aren't based strictly on birthplace, and a few US players were born in random countries because (I assume) their parents were living abroad or in the military. Just wondering if there will be a "nationality" setting separate from birth country or how we'll be able to set who plays for which team.

[Caporegime]

Originally Posted by hobbitrjw

Would be nice to see just a "Tournament mode you can pull teams from saved games from to create.

Absolutely! I always thought David Watts came up with the ultimate suggestion for a stand-alone Tournament mode a few years ago:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ment-mode.html

Originally Posted by David Watts

Now that it's been said the 15 will make it easier to set up historical league involving team from different periods in baseball, is there any chance of OOTP adding a tournament mode to the game? I would love to be able to set up a tournament bracket involving teams from all periods of baseball history and have the computer track stats for the duration of the tournament. It would be great if the game could come with maybe 2 standard brackets, for example a 32 team and a 64 team bracket. Even cooler if down the road we could get double elimination brackets included.

Don't get me wrong. I'm over the moon about us finally having a fully integrated tournament creator in the game. However, being able to play in tourney mode only or setting up historical tournaments independently, as David describes above, would be an awesome future enhancement.

[thorpegiovanni]

Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

I was going to post this in the similar question thread I put up a few days ago... how will the WBC figure out who plays for which teams? Israel, Italy etc. aren't based strictly on birthplace, and a few US players were born in random countries because (I assume) their parents were living abroad or in the military. Just wondering if there will be a "nationality" setting separate from birth country or how we'll be able to set who plays for which team.

From my beta experience, teams like Israel and Italy generate random players who have no stats. While others, like South Korea or China, have some players from MLB or MiLB, some from their respective leagues, and some randomly generated. But, I think you can manually edit these...

[thorpegiovanni]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

He said there had to be leagues but does the league have to play any games?

Well, technically, no. Haven't tried it. But, I assume you could create a fictional league, immediately delete teams or set schedule to zero, and proceed. You can also schedule the tournament during the regular season.

[Coltrane]

A true NCAA league is sounding better by the second. I need to go buy some more RAM.

[BBGiovanni]

Originally Posted by thorpegiovanni

From my beta experience, teams like Israel and Italy generate random players who have no stats. While others, like South Korea or China, have some players from MLB or MiLB, some from their respective leagues, and some randomly generated. But, I think you can manually edit these...

Thanks for responding

Too bad, since at least with Italy I'm sure all the other players come from the IBL (Australians from ABL, etc) and are therefore in the game.

I was mostly curious to see if there was a new player characteristic we could use but maybe that kind of thing will cone in the next few years. Still excited to have tournets!

[hobbitrjw]

Originally Posted by thorpegiovanni

Well, technically, no. Haven't tried it. But, I assume you could create a fictional league, immediately delete teams or set schedule to zero, and proceed. You can also schedule the tournament during the regular season.

So from what you are saying this should be a feature that comes with custom fictional leagues correct?

Seems like it wouldn't be hard to create a tournament only world since you already can with players having no team affiliation till after a fantasy draft,just remove any teams and league structures. Wouldn't doing this after world creation just release all players not delete them?

[Chico Guilbault]

Originally Posted by thorpegiovanni

From my beta experience, teams like Israel and Italy generate random players who have no stats. While others, like South Korea or China, have some players from MLB or MiLB, some from their respective leagues, and some randomly generated. But, I think you can manually edit these...

Why would it only randomly generate players from Italy? My game has many players from Italy, would it not use these existing players? Does it just create new random players when no existing players are there?

[Caporegime]

Originally Posted by Chico Guilbault

Why would it only randomly generate players from Italy? My game has many players from Italy, would it not use these existing players? Does it just create new random players when no existing players are there?

I may be wrong on this, but it sounds to me like it functions the same way FM does in this regard, where existing players in the game are automatically placed on their respective national teams with the AI generating new players to fill in any gaps. For example, if Germany only has one existing player in the game (Max Kepler), the AI will automatically generate a full roster of fictional German players to flesh out Germany's national team.

If that is how it indeed works, that naturally begs the question as to whether or not we can opt to use ghost players on national teams instead the same way we can when simming the minor leagues if we don't want fictional players in our game. I haven't played FM in a few years, but FM used to generate ghost players with names that were simply grayed out as opposed to the completely invisible (more ghost-like, I suppose) ones OOTP generates when this option is selected.

[thorpegiovanni]

Originally Posted by Chico Guilbault

Why would it only randomly generate players from Italy? My game has many players from Italy, would it not use these existing players? Does it just create new random players when no existing players are there?

If you have Italians in your league, it would work. I didn't.

[Padreman]

Let me piggy back of this thread
Can you have groups of nations together for example all the counties and territories u set the United Kingdom be one team? Or an all Latino team? Or all Asian team?

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by thorpegiovanni

If you have Italians in your league, it would work. I didn't.

Presumably this doesn't work for guys like Pat Venditte, who represented Italy due to his grandparents being Italian?

I appreciate though that it would be a lot of work to include an extra field, in addition to "place of birth" called something like "national team affiliation", so you could replicate situations like that.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by Padreman

Let me piggy back of this thread
Can you have groups of nations together for example all the counties and territories u set the United Kingdom be one team? Or an all Latino team? Or all Asian team?

And indeed an all Ireland team as happens in some sports*. Or the West Indies in Cricket, or the Unified Korean team as happened at the Olympics once, or the CIS business at the '92 Olympics, etc.

*Where there is both an "Ireland" team an a "United Kingdom" team Northern Irish players are eligible for either. This also applies to the Olympics, due to agreements between the British and Irish Olympic committees.

[Sam_15]

So does anyone know if we can add tournaments to an existing league? I'm curious to see if I can add a WBC-style tournament to my fictional.

[daves]

So I build my team in whatever year and I feel I have one of the best built teams in baseball. Can I import old historical teams for a tournament?