New extra innings rule

jokerhusky1129 · 02-14-2017, 09:48 PM

This is a real longshot...but will the new proposed extra innings rule be in OOTP 18?

Padreman · 02-14-2017, 09:49 PM

It's
Proposed not in a effect

jokerhusky1129 · 02-14-2017, 09:52 PM

I know, was just wondering. Not saying it's a good rule..just wondering if it'll be there

r0nster · 02-14-2017, 10:27 PM

the proposed extra innings rule is only for lower minor league levels for they want to test it to see how it works in real life and not just on paper

tlowe77 · 02-14-2017, 11:20 PM

I really hope this rule doesn't come in! Who gets charged the run? Does the runner get the run? Can the team put anyone on 2B, or does the next guy up go straight to 2B (which would suck if it was your homerun hitter)?.

I just think it's a silly rule, and I doubt very highly that the OOTP Development team would put in a proposed rule on that short of notice.

Caporegime · 02-15-2017, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tlowe77

I really hope this rule doesn't come in! Who gets charged the run? Does the runner get the run? Can the team put anyone on 2B, or does the next guy up go straight to 2B (which would suck if it was your homerun hitter)?.

I just think it's a silly rule, and I doubt very highly that the OOTP Development team would put in a proposed rule on that short of notice.

Hey, why not? It's supposed to be a feel-good solution designed to help baseball keep pace with today's high-tech, fast-moving world. Haven't you heard?....Baseball is dying! Oh my!

If anything, the rule doesn't go far enough. Maybe all games should start in the bottom of the 9th with a runner on third. The games will be shortened on average of 98% and contain all action! Markus can rename OOTP to "Out of the Park in Thirty Seconds or less". Trust me, in today's fast-paced, high-octane, trans-fat-free America, it'll be a monster hit. We can then spend all that time we used to waste watching baseball discussing our feelings over a bowl of artisan chick pea salad or gluten-free hummus.

jpeters1734 · 02-15-2017, 12:48 AM

huge mistake if they ever implement this in the MLB. the box score is sacred

Le Grande Orange · 02-15-2017, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by r0nster

the proposed extra innings rule is only for lower minor league levels for they want to test it to see how it works in real life and not just on paper

Don't try talking sense and facts on this rule proposal; it's pointless. Let the overreactions flow...

Sweed · 02-15-2017, 11:48 AM

The stupidity of this can't even begin to be described.

Allowing ties would be preferable whether after the 9th (you bet get that game over and move on

) or having a max number of innings at which time the game would be declared a tie.

This would still be stupid but at least you'd have the strategy of "playing for a tie" in place and it would have to be earned by actually getting men on base the "old fashioned way", you know by hit, bb, error, hbp.

I know they could make it so you didn't actually have to score a run to win.

Instead any runner reaching base in extra innings would result in a "point" for the batting team. These points would be a separate stat from runs and would, in the absence of a run determine the winner. One run scored trumps all points accumulated by the other team. IE visiting team loads bases (3pts), hits into a home to 1b DP, next guy walks (now 4 pts scored because as we all know by rule you can't lose a point once it's been earned

), next guy K's leaving the batting team with 4 points. Home team comes up and first guy hits a home run. Home team wins on a walk-off because one run trumps all points scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, this is pure genius. How is it I don't work for MLB

zappa1 · 02-15-2017, 01:15 PM

Stupid rule.

So, something that happens like once in a blue moon, (a position player pitching), is reason to ruin ALL extra inning games? I pay my money to see a ballgame. Not some cheapened version. Or do the owners want to start charging for extra innings? Sounds like that's what the owners really want to do. They want more money for extra innings games. They think the fans are getting extra baseball for free and they have to put a stop to that. Greedy owners. So who's really chasing the fans away?

Déjà Bru · 02-15-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zappa1

Stupid rule.

Yes, we are talking about this in Talk Sports so we may want to take the debate over there. OP just asked whether this "proposed" rule would be in OOTPB 18. My uneducated guess: No. It's not standard MLB yet and it probably would involve substantial programming between now and release day for something that is still iffy.

slugger922cubs · 02-15-2017, 02:09 PM

This should be an option to turn on and off and at what inning it takes effect in. Heck, to increase offense maybe I want to do it every inning. I don't agree with the rule. To me a long extra inning battle that stretches into the morning is one of my favorite things about baseball. But for customizability it should be there. Japan has had this rule for a few years now and the Olympics and other tournaments have used it too. The option to have ties after a certain inning should be there too, imo.

GeoWar · 02-15-2017, 02:19 PM

The rule makes no sense. Gives the "home" team too much of an advantage. Runner on second ; as visiting team you must score and hope to plate another run at least --- As the home team if the visitors score one run or none , you sacrifice to third base and then score *** you may never need a hit.

It would be more exciting to have a shoot out like in hockey. Home Run Derby or Divide the field into point areas (foul balls an out) -- 9 different batters bat or till 3 outs --- highest number of points gets a run and wins . The "run" is counted as a "Team Earned Run" .

Caporegime · 02-15-2017, 02:20 PM

C'mon guys. You're overreacting! Baseball needs to keep up with the times, get hip to the prevailing zeitgeist, and speed things up because the sport is dying and kids just aren't watching/playing it anymore like they did during dem good ole daYzzzz.

Just like it was dying in 1917:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=6721,6030683

And in sharp decline amongst youth in 1935:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=1290,3325819

And still dying in 1955:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=2056,3556804

And on life support in 1963:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=5979,5641284

And (gasp!) 1969. While Neil Armstrong was joyfully frolicking about on the moon, didn't he realize that rigor mortis was settling in to baseball's blackened & bloated corpse? Selfish bastige!

https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...&pg=825,594967

And so on, and so on, and so on.......

So, don't you see? At the rate baseball is declining and kids abandoning it, it's going to be completely irrelevant in another 75,000 years. Something needs to be done to save it now!

Besides, the children....OMG! Won't someone please think of the children?!? If they're forced to watch a baseball game that's over 3 hours in length, it might stunt their growth!

Maybe Markus should get ahead of the curve on this and get us all out of the park as quickly as possible, so to speak.

Cryomaniac · 02-15-2017, 03:56 PM

This rules should be in as an option, as should allowing tied games as they used to (still do?) in Japan.

JaBurns · 02-15-2017, 04:10 PM

This is a dumb rule. It is like the shoot out in hockey. Why play 60+ minutes of hockey one way and then play an entirely different game to decide the winner of the game?? Ties are a better idea, if not in baseball, at least in hockey.
Play the game the proper way!

DB930 · 02-15-2017, 04:31 PM

From what I remember when I read the story about this proposal, I think(?) it's a rule that's actually already used in some international leagues/tournaments. If that's the case, then it should be an option in the game, no matter how stupid it is...

froghair · 02-15-2017, 04:48 PM

Ootp should implement this rule .. and these others: every player must play three innings; 12-man batting order; token for concession stand popsicles after games.

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r0nster · 02-15-2017, 08:03 PM

@ Caporegime
Besides, the children....OMG! Won't someone please think of the children?!? If they're forced to watch a baseball game that's over 3 hours in length, it might stunt their growth!

I think the point is being missed as I have learned that with each passing generation the creativity in playing various games gets limiting. Sometimes on their own or simple factors as not enough friends. I have played baseball with 2 people in my backyard made with simple rules we devised.
How about the fact players want quick money and baseball doesn't do that unlike basketball and football. So the parents get them on to a different game.
As for the time differences yes before radio advertisement the games were much quicker then with the advent of TV the times got longer then it became 2 minute commercials then 1 minute commercials for pitching changes as such. Before you bash baseball with 3 hour games you might be surprised with hockey and basketball and football times from first kickoff to when it ends ... you would be surprised who has the longest game. All sports are pretty close Nascar by far is the longest.
So the bottom line is game itself is NOT the problem.

Le Grande Orange · 02-15-2017, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caporegime

C'mon guys. You're overreacting! Baseball needs to keep up with the times, get hip to the prevailing zeitgeist, and speed things up because the sport is dying and kids just aren't watching/playing it anymore like they did during dem good ole daYzzzz.

Now you need only show that was the reason for the proposed change. Otherwise, have fun tilting at that strawman.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

This rules should be in as an option, as should allowing tied games as they used to (still do?) in Japan.

Tie games can happen in both MLB and the minor leagues. (The Cubs and Pirates played a 1-1 tie just last season, on Sept. 29, 2016.) They just happen far less frequently in the majors than in the past due to artificial lighting, the ending of local curfews, and the ceasing of designated ending times for games to allow for club travel.

Ties in the minor leagues do happen more often than in the majors, due to curfews and travel constraints still being in place, as well as suspended games which are not completed but which were legal games at the time of suspension with the score tied. (In 2016, there were 3 tie games in the Mexican League; 2 tie games in the Pacific Coast League; and 1 tie game in the FSL, Midwest League, and NY-Penn League,)

The difference is that North American leagues don't show tie games in the standings, are not counted towards a club's winning percentage, and are replayed at a later date (schedule permitting).

02-14-2017, 09:48 PM	#1
jokerhusky1129 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 456	New extra innings rule This is a real longshot...but will the new proposed extra innings rule be in OOTP 18?

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Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,138	It's Proposed not in a effect __________________ Chargers= Despicable Traitors

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jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,268	huge mistake if they ever implement this in the MLB. the box score is sacred __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

02-15-2017, 11:48 AM	#9
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,847	The stupidity of this can't even begin to be described. Allowing ties would be preferable whether after the 9th (you bet get that game over and move on) or having a max number of innings at which time the game would be declared a tie. This would still be stupid but at least you'd have the strategy of "playing for a tie" in place and it would have to be earned by actually getting men on base the "old fashioned way", you know by hit, bb, error, hbp. I know they could make it so you didn't actually have to score a run to win. Instead any runner reaching base in extra innings would result in a "point" for the batting team. These points would be a separate stat from runs and would, in the absence of a run determine the winner. One run scored trumps all points accumulated by the other team. IE visiting team loads bases (3pts), hits into a home to 1b DP, next guy walks (now 4 pts scored because as we all know by rule you can't lose a point once it's been earned ), next guy K's leaving the batting team with 4 points. Home team comes up and first guy hits a home run. Home team wins on a walk-off because one run trumps all points scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, this is pure genius. How is it I don't work for MLB

02-15-2017, 02:19 PM	#13
GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	The rule makes no sense. Gives the "home" team too much of an advantage. Runner on second ; as visiting team you must score and hope to plate another run at least --- As the home team if the visitors score one run or none , you sacrifice to third base and then score *** you may never need a hit. It would be more exciting to have a shoot out like in hockey. Home Run Derby or Divide the field into point areas (foul balls an out) -- 9 different batters bat or till 3 outs --- highest number of points gets a run and wins . The "run" is counted as a "Team Earned Run" . __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

02-14-2017, 09:52 PM	#3
jokerhusky1129 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 456	I know, was just wondering. Not saying it's a good rule..just wondering if it'll be there

02-14-2017, 10:27 PM	#4
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,077	the proposed extra innings rule is only for lower minor league levels for they want to test it to see how it works in real life and not just on paper

02-14-2017, 11:20 PM	#5
tlowe77 Major Leagues Join Date: May 2015 Location: Geelong, Australia Posts: 473	I really hope this rule doesn't come in! Who gets charged the run? Does the runner get the run? Can the team put anyone on 2B, or does the next guy up go straight to 2B (which would suck if it was your homerun hitter)?. I just think it's a silly rule, and I doubt very highly that the OOTP Development team would put in a proposed rule on that short of notice.

02-15-2017, 01:15 PM	#10
zappa1 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 2,189	Stupid rule. So, something that happens like once in a blue moon, (a position player pitching), is reason to ruin ALL extra inning games? I pay my money to see a ballgame. Not some cheapened version. Or do the owners want to start charging for extra innings? Sounds like that's what the owners really want to do. They want more money for extra innings games. They think the fans are getting extra baseball for free and they have to put a stop to that. Greedy owners. So who's really chasing the fans away?

02-15-2017, 02:09 PM	#12
slugger922cubs Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 314	This should be an option to turn on and off and at what inning it takes effect in. Heck, to increase offense maybe I want to do it every inning. I don't agree with the rule. To me a long extra inning battle that stretches into the morning is one of my favorite things about baseball. But for customizability it should be there. Japan has had this rule for a few years now and the Olympics and other tournaments have used it too. The option to have ties after a certain inning should be there too, imo.

02-15-2017, 02:20 PM	#14
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	C'mon guys. You're overreacting! Baseball needs to keep up with the times, get hip to the prevailing zeitgeist, and speed things up because the sport is dying and kids just aren't watching/playing it anymore like they did during dem good ole daYzzzz. Just like it was dying in 1917: https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=6721,6030683 And in sharp decline amongst youth in 1935: https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=1290,3325819 And still dying in 1955: https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=2056,3556804 And on life support in 1963: https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...g=5979,5641284 And (gasp!) 1969. While Neil Armstrong was joyfully frolicking about on the moon, didn't he realize that rigor mortis was settling in to baseball's blackened & bloated corpse? Selfish bastige! https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...&pg=825,594967 And so on, and so on, and so on....... So, don't you see? At the rate baseball is declining and kids abandoning it, it's going to be completely irrelevant in another 75,000 years. Something needs to be done to save it now! Besides, the children....OMG! Won't someone please think of the children?!? If they're forced to watch a baseball game that's over 3 hours in length, it might stunt their growth! Maybe Markus should get ahead of the curve on this and get us all out of the park as quickly as possible, so to speak. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra Last edited by Caporegime; 02-15-2017 at 02:38 PM.

02-15-2017, 03:56 PM	#15
Cryomaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hucknall, Notts, UK Posts: 4,902	This rules should be in as an option, as should allowing tied games as they used to (still do?) in Japan. __________________

02-15-2017, 04:10 PM	#16
JaBurns All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Kelowna, British Columbia Posts: 1,300	This is a dumb rule. It is like the shoot out in hockey. Why play 60+ minutes of hockey one way and then play an entirely different game to decide the winner of the game?? Ties are a better idea, if not in baseball, at least in hockey. Play the game the proper way! Last edited by JaBurns; 02-15-2017 at 06:44 PM. Reason: Grammar

02-15-2017, 04:31 PM	#17
DB930 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 302	From what I remember when I read the story about this proposal, I think(?) it's a rule that's actually already used in some international leagues/tournaments. If that's the case, then it should be an option in the game, no matter how stupid it is...

02-15-2017, 04:48 PM	#18
froghair Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Rocky River, Ohio Posts: 67	Ootp should implement this rule .. and these others: every player must play three innings; 12-man batting order; token for concession stand popsicles after games. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

02-15-2017, 08:03 PM	#19
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,077	@ Caporegime Besides, the children....OMG! Won't someone please think of the children?!? If they're forced to watch a baseball game that's over 3 hours in length, it might stunt their growth! I think the point is being missed as I have learned that with each passing generation the creativity in playing various games gets limiting. Sometimes on their own or simple factors as not enough friends. I have played baseball with 2 people in my backyard made with simple rules we devised. How about the fact players want quick money and baseball doesn't do that unlike basketball and football. So the parents get them on to a different game. As for the time differences yes before radio advertisement the games were much quicker then with the advent of TV the times got longer then it became 2 minute commercials then 1 minute commercials for pitching changes as such. Before you bash baseball with 3 hour games you might be surprised with hockey and basketball and football times from first kickoff to when it ends ... you would be surprised who has the longest game. All sports are pretty close Nascar by far is the longest. So the bottom line is game itself is NOT the problem. Last edited by r0nster; 02-15-2017 at 08:05 PM.