84-95 Best Teams League

carlivar · 03-06-2003, 04:44 AM

My "golden years" of baseball were when I was 7-18 years old. Like anyone who loves baseball I guess. That's when I got into it and devoured all things baseball. Still do, but of course when you watch baseball growing up there's something special about it. And of course the game's not the same any more since the offensive explosion.

Anyway, for my first OOTP league I created the Time Travel League. I took the old East/West division formats and imported each team's best year of my choice.

Below are the standings. Note that the number after each team is the year that I imported them from. I know some of my picks are a little debatable, like why 91 Twins rather than 87 Twins? In the case of multiple good teams I just put in the team I remember best to make it most fun for me.

Some teams didn't have a season in the period where they finished 1st so I just chose a season where they did fairly well.

I controlled the 89 Cubs. Did rather crappy! The 89 Cubs actually don't match up very well at all to most of these teams. 1989 was really sort of an off year for almost every team but the A's! Sutcliffe and Maddux both with substantial injuries at one point really hurt though.

Anyway here's the results with playoffs at the bottom. I can post League Leaders and such if anyone's interested.

Oh and in the case of multiple versions of the same player, I went in and added the year of that version of the player behind their last name. Kind of funny! So there were two Hal Morris's for instance, one on the '90 Reds and one on the '94 Yankees. Many other players too. I don't want to do that again, it took forever!!!

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National Standings :
(Name W L PCT GB AVG ERA)

East
Philadelphia 93     100 62 .617 -- .264 3.37 
New York (N) 86     98 64 .605 2 .246 3.03 
Pittsburgh 90     84 78 .519 16 .253 3.46 
Montreal 94     83 79 .512 17 .254 3.46 
St. Louis 87     78 84 .481 22 .250 4.15 
Chicago (N) 89     71 91 .438 29 .246 4.06 

West
Los Angeles 88     86 76 .531 -- .246 3.17 
Atlanta 91     83 79 .512 3 .248 3.31 
Cincinatti 90     82 80 .506 4 .254 3.60 
Houston 86     80 82 .494 6 .252 3.41 
San Diego 84     67 95 .414 19 .247 3.89 
San Francisco 89     60 102 .370 26 .245 4.24 

American Standings :
(Name W L PCT GB AVG ERA)

East
Cleveland 95     98 64 .605 -- .289 4.34 
Detroit 87     94 68 .580 4 .275 4.22 
Boston 90     91 71 .562 7 .270 4.11 
Milwaukee 92     83 79 .512 15 .267 3.53 
Toronto 89     79 83 .488 19 .260 4.29 
Baltimore 92     74 88 .457 24 .264 3.94 
New York (A) 94     74 88 .457 24 .277 4.99 

West
Minnesota 91     101 61 .623 -- .284 3.83 
Seattle 95     79 83 .488 22 .267 4.24 
California 86     78 84 .481 23 .250 4.11 
Kansas City 85     72 90 .444 29 .251 4.48 
Oakland 88    72 90 .444 29 .259 4.56 
Texas 93     70 92 .432 31 .271 4.71 
Chicago (A) 93     69 93 .426 32 .268 4.94 

Playoffs :
League Championship Serie :
Los Angeles 88 (2) against Philadelphia 93 (4)
Cleveland 95 (4) against Minnesota 91 (1)

World Series :
Cleveland 95 (0) against Philadelphia 93 (4)

Rowleyball · 03-06-2003, 04:54 AM

Wow, the '88 Dodgers did pretty well for being the "worst lineup in World Series history" (according to Bob Costas - quote might be off by a bit). Hershiser and the rest of the rotation must have carried them for months at a time.

Go ahead and post league leaders. I'm definitely interested. This was also a time when I was at my peak attention to the MLB.

jmaness84 · 03-06-2003, 07:09 AM

93 Braves were better than the 93 phillies. Even the 93 Giants were better. Top 4 NL Homerun list in 93 was: Bonds SF. Justice ATl, Gant ATL, and Mcgriff ATL. Not to mention the braves pitching staff w/ a newly aquired Greg Maddux and a Jeff BLauser hitting .300. Braves would have beat the phillies but they had a dog fight for the west w/ SF!

carlivar · 03-06-2003, 12:48 PM

Yeah in many of the cases I picked the 1st year a team won their division, plus I favored the years 88-91 because those are the years I was REALLY into baseball (when I collected baseball cards heavily).

The '92 or '93 Blue Jays would have been stronger than the '89 Jays too, but '89 has a special place in my heart. And of course the Jays did win the division that year too. Then Canseco hit a monster home run into like the 3rd deck of the Skydome in the playoffs...

I will post the league leaders this evening.

Carl

Johnny93g · 03-07-2003, 02:03 AM

Just wanted to say, being from Toronto, the 85 Jays won 99 games, won their divsion, and were up 3-1 in the ALCS before a huge collapse. The 89 Jays were probalby the worst Jay team to ever make the playoffs. OH WELl. Hope the Jays do well in your league

carlivar · 03-07-2003, 02:20 PM

I was 8 years old in '85 and don't remember them too well. Like I said, '89 has a special place in my heart due to the Cubs. Damn Giants... damn Will Clark...

Carl

AgPete · 03-07-2003, 10:26 PM

Interesting results. Those are similar to my best baseball years too. It was better watching baseball growing up and thinking I somehow had a realistic shot at the majors.

I watched a lot more baseball in those days than I do now.

03-06-2003, 04:44 AM	#1
carlivar Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 18	84-95 Best Teams League My "golden years" of baseball were when I was 7-18 years old. Like anyone who loves baseball I guess. That's when I got into it and devoured all things baseball. Still do, but of course when you watch baseball growing up there's something special about it. And of course the game's not the same any more since the offensive explosion. Anyway, for my first OOTP league I created the Time Travel League. I took the old East/West division formats and imported each team's best year of my choice. Below are the standings. Note that the number after each team is the year that I imported them from. I know some of my picks are a little debatable, like why 91 Twins rather than 87 Twins? In the case of multiple good teams I just put in the team I remember best to make it most fun for me. Some teams didn't have a season in the period where they finished 1st so I just chose a season where they did fairly well. I controlled the 89 Cubs. Did rather crappy! The 89 Cubs actually don't match up very well at all to most of these teams. 1989 was really sort of an off year for almost every team but the A's! Sutcliffe and Maddux both with substantial injuries at one point really hurt though. Anyway here's the results with playoffs at the bottom. I can post League Leaders and such if anyone's interested. Oh and in the case of multiple versions of the same player, I went in and added the year of that version of the player behind their last name. Kind of funny! So there were two Hal Morris's for instance, one on the '90 Reds and one on the '94 Yankees. Many other players too. I don't want to do that again, it took forever!!! Code: National Standings : (Name W L PCT GB AVG ERA) East Philadelphia 93 100 62 .617 -- .264 3.37 New York (N) 86 98 64 .605 2 .246 3.03 Pittsburgh 90 84 78 .519 16 .253 3.46 Montreal 94 83 79 .512 17 .254 3.46 St. Louis 87 78 84 .481 22 .250 4.15 Chicago (N) 89 71 91 .438 29 .246 4.06 West Los Angeles 88 86 76 .531 -- .246 3.17 Atlanta 91 83 79 .512 3 .248 3.31 Cincinatti 90 82 80 .506 4 .254 3.60 Houston 86 80 82 .494 6 .252 3.41 San Diego 84 67 95 .414 19 .247 3.89 San Francisco 89 60 102 .370 26 .245 4.24 American Standings : (Name W L PCT GB AVG ERA) East Cleveland 95 98 64 .605 -- .289 4.34 Detroit 87 94 68 .580 4 .275 4.22 Boston 90 91 71 .562 7 .270 4.11 Milwaukee 92 83 79 .512 15 .267 3.53 Toronto 89 79 83 .488 19 .260 4.29 Baltimore 92 74 88 .457 24 .264 3.94 New York (A) 94 74 88 .457 24 .277 4.99 West Minnesota 91 101 61 .623 -- .284 3.83 Seattle 95 79 83 .488 22 .267 4.24 California 86 78 84 .481 23 .250 4.11 Kansas City 85 72 90 .444 29 .251 4.48 Oakland 88 72 90 .444 29 .259 4.56 Texas 93 70 92 .432 31 .271 4.71 Chicago (A) 93 69 93 .426 32 .268 4.94 Playoffs : League Championship Serie : Los Angeles 88 (2) against Philadelphia 93 (4) Cleveland 95 (4) against Minnesota 91 (1) World Series : Cleveland 95 (0) against Philadelphia 93 (4)

03-07-2003, 10:26 PM	#7
AgPete Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 43	Interesting results. Those are similar to my best baseball years too. It was better watching baseball growing up and thinking I somehow had a realistic shot at the majors. I watched a lot more baseball in those days than I do now. __________________ OOTP5 Dynasty - Rebuilding Baseball's Junk Teams OOTP5 Dynasty - Psychology Experiment, Same Skills but Different Personalities Click here to view the OOTP5 Texas Rangers Skin! AgPete's Text-Based Sports Sim Page

03-06-2003, 04:54 AM	#2
Rowleyball Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 265	Wow, the '88 Dodgers did pretty well for being the "worst lineup in World Series history" (according to Bob Costas - quote might be off by a bit). Hershiser and the rest of the rotation must have carried them for months at a time. Go ahead and post league leaders. I'm definitely interested. This was also a time when I was at my peak attention to the MLB.

03-06-2003, 07:09 AM	#3
jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	93 Braves were better than the 93 phillies. Even the 93 Giants were better. Top 4 NL Homerun list in 93 was: Bonds SF. Justice ATl, Gant ATL, and Mcgriff ATL. Not to mention the braves pitching staff w/ a newly aquired Greg Maddux and a Jeff BLauser hitting .300. Braves would have beat the phillies but they had a dog fight for the west w/ SF!

03-06-2003, 12:48 PM	#4
carlivar Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 18	Yeah in many of the cases I picked the 1st year a team won their division, plus I favored the years 88-91 because those are the years I was REALLY into baseball (when I collected baseball cards heavily). The '92 or '93 Blue Jays would have been stronger than the '89 Jays too, but '89 has a special place in my heart. And of course the Jays did win the division that year too. Then Canseco hit a monster home run into like the 3rd deck of the Skydome in the playoffs... I will post the league leaders this evening. Carl

03-07-2003, 02:03 AM	#5
Johnny93g Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 150	Just wanted to say, being from Toronto, the 85 Jays won 99 games, won their divsion, and were up 3-1 in the ALCS before a huge collapse. The 89 Jays were probalby the worst Jay team to ever make the playoffs. OH WELl. Hope the Jays do well in your league

03-07-2003, 02:20 PM	#6
carlivar Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 18	I was 8 years old in '85 and don't remember them too well. Like I said, '89 has a special place in my heart due to the Cubs. Damn Giants... damn Will Clark... Carl