What Is A Power Pitcher/Finesse Pitcher?

kevin500 · 11-18-2016, 10:01 AM

Hi guys, still kind of new to baseball and this game. Looking for a pitching coach, he is best with power pitchers but I don't know if I have any on my team. What exactly do I look for in a power pitcher? What is his velocity supposed to be and what number 20-80 should his fastball be. What is considered a Finesse Pitcher?

Thanks

Padreman · 11-18-2016, 10:16 AM

Power pitchers typically throw hard can get a lot of strikeouts they have a strong fastball hard slider also they tend to have to good split finger fastball's and forkballs at times in general may end up throwing more pitches in the game

finesse pitchers are like artists they focus more on location of the pitch and the type a pitch to get the person out they can still get strikeouts but they are the guys they would throw the right pitch at the right spot to get that ground ball double play for the most part they don't throw as hard But they tend to walk fewer batters and throw less pictures during the game

kevin500 · 11-18-2016, 10:23 AM

Thanks for the quick reply. I did a bit of research and have an idea of what they are but how can I tell in ootp. Do I look at his past seasons to see how many strikes he throws per 9?

What is considered a strong fastball, 65 up?

So do I have to look and see if he has a strong fastball and slider?

Basically I want to know how I can look at a pitcher in ootp 17 and say if he is a power pitcher or not.

saturn2187 · 11-18-2016, 10:41 AM

Do we see modeled in game the conversion that some successful pitchers make in real life from power pitcher to finesse?

I think Pedro Martinez was one, although I'm sure there are better examples.

Guys who go from "throwing" to really pitching.

I haven't played the game for long enough or paid close enough attention to that. Obviously its not every pitcher but is it something that is modeled at all?

Izz · 11-18-2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin500

Basically I want to know how I can look at a pitcher in ootp 17 and say if he is a power pitcher or not.

At a glance look at a pitcher's stuff rating. High stuff generally means power pitcher. K/9 is a good indicator too.

High control generally means finesse pitcher. BB/9 is a good indicator here, also. Stuff will likely be only average.

Matt Arnold · 11-18-2016, 02:26 PM

If you look at a coaches' relationships page, it will also tell you who he works well with and who he doesn't work with

Klaus 74 · 11-20-2016, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

finesse pitchers are like artists they focus more on location of the pitch and the type a *itch to get the person out they can still get strikeouts......

You may want to edit one of the words in this partial quote. Come to think of it I've struck out with my share of those too, lol!.

Padreman · 11-23-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Klaus 74

You may want to edit one of the words in this partial quote. Come to think of it I've struck out with my share of those too, lol!.

Lol good catch stupid autocorrect

Klaus 74 · 11-23-2016, 07:49 PM

Just a thought Padreman, would you prefer I edit my original post now that things are straightened out? I'm okay with it either way but certainly would rather follow what you would wish...

jaysdailydose · 11-23-2016, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saturn2187

Do we see modeled in game the conversion that some successful pitchers make in real life from power pitcher to finesse?

I think Pedro Martinez was one, although I'm sure there are better examples.

Guys who go from "throwing" to really pitching.

I haven't played the game for long enough or paid close enough attention to that. Obviously its not every pitcher but is it something that is modeled at all?

Honestly, I think one of the best examples of a power pitcher becoming a finesse pitcher is Frank Tanana. Wound up with 240 wins, too, so quite a talented player in the 70's, 80's and early 90's.

Curve Ball Dave · 11-24-2016, 04:23 PM

To give to real life examples on the same team: Jack Arrieta-Power, Kyle Hendricks-Finesse.

11-18-2016, 10:01 AM	#1
kevin500 Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2	What Is A Power Pitcher/Finesse Pitcher? Hi guys, still kind of new to baseball and this game. Looking for a pitching coach, he is best with power pitchers but I don't know if I have any on my team. What exactly do I look for in a power pitcher? What is his velocity supposed to be and what number 20-80 should his fastball be. What is considered a Finesse Pitcher? Thanks

11-18-2016, 10:16 AM	#2
Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,131	Power pitchers typically throw hard can get a lot of strikeouts they have a strong fastball hard slider also they tend to have to good split finger fastball's and forkballs at times in general may end up throwing more pitches in the game finesse pitchers are like artists they focus more on location of the pitch and the type a pitch to get the person out they can still get strikeouts but they are the guys they would throw the right pitch at the right spot to get that ground ball double play for the most part they don't throw as hard But they tend to walk fewer batters and throw less pictures during the game __________________ Chargers= Despicable Traitors Last edited by Padreman; 11-23-2016 at 01:34 PM.

11-24-2016, 04:23 PM	#11
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,393	To give to real life examples on the same team: Jack Arrieta-Power, Kyle Hendricks-Finesse. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

11-18-2016, 10:23 AM	#3
kevin500 Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2	Thanks for the quick reply. I did a bit of research and have an idea of what they are but how can I tell in ootp. Do I look at his past seasons to see how many strikes he throws per 9? What is considered a strong fastball, 65 up? So do I have to look and see if he has a strong fastball and slider? Basically I want to know how I can look at a pitcher in ootp 17 and say if he is a power pitcher or not.

11-18-2016, 10:41 AM	#4
saturn2187 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 532	Do we see modeled in game the conversion that some successful pitchers make in real life from power pitcher to finesse? I think Pedro Martinez was one, although I'm sure there are better examples. Guys who go from "throwing" to really pitching. I haven't played the game for long enough or paid close enough attention to that. Obviously its not every pitcher but is it something that is modeled at all?

11-18-2016, 02:26 PM	#6
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 16,232	If you look at a coaches' relationships page, it will also tell you who he works well with and who he doesn't work with

11-23-2016, 07:49 PM	#9
Klaus 74 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 81	Just a thought Padreman, would you prefer I edit my original post now that things are straightened out? I'm okay with it either way but certainly would rather follow what you would wish...