Minor League team placement after MANUAL expansion

HuachucaThunder · 08-14-2016, 08:30 PM

Is this a bug or a random occurrence? If random, I have bad luck with this.
I have started several new games starting with the 2016 season (real life). After the 2016 season ended, I decided I would expand the league by 2 teams and go to a 4 division format in each league, for a total of 32 teams.
When checking my minor league teams. I noticed that the minor league teams are placed in the IL, EL, CAL, NYP x 2, and APP x 2 for 7 teams total.
The problem is that the teams are not geographically correct going into these leagues. For example, I have 2 team (Santa Ana Waves - a California team) in the New York Penn league and the other was Carlsbad Rockets - another California based team) in the same New York Penn League. In the APP League, the teams were the Reno Bombers (Nevada based) and the Springfield Lumberjacks (Massachusetts based). All 4 teams are WAY out of the geographical regions of the leagues.
This happens every time I try to start a new game with current rosters and teams and then want to expand.

BigRed75 · 08-14-2016, 09:57 PM

This is not a bug, it's not a random occurence. The system is working as intended.

Which sucks. It is such a PITA to move the expansion minor league teams to the correct leagues and rename them to geographically appropriate cities. But, I doubt it's going to get fixed any time soon, since it's basically window dressing.

I feel your pain, dude.

ArcAngel · 08-14-2016, 10:40 PM

What you can try is to set a region most approprite for each league before you manually expand. That should then limit the issue you are seeing.

HuachucaThunder · 08-15-2016, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRed75

This is not a bug, it's not a random occurence. The system is working as intended.

Which sucks. It is such a PITA to move the expansion minor league teams to the correct leagues and rename them to geographically appropriate cities. But, I doubt it's going to get fixed any time soon, since it's basically window dressing.

I feel your pain, dude.

I agree it is a PITA, but I guess I will do it the way I have always done, just manually move and rename the teams to where I want them.

HuachucaThunder · 08-15-2016, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcAngel

What you can try is to set a region most approprite for each league before you manually expand. That should then limit the issue you are seeing.

I guess I could try that. But for the leagues with two different regions, it may not work? Like the New York Penn League for example. I may have to try it this way though and see what happens.

BigRed75 · 08-15-2016, 06:56 PM

It still doesn't fix the fact that expansion gives the new teams two short season A clubs, no Single-A club (just Advanced-A) and no complex league (GCL/AZL) club.

The expansion has been broken in MLB-based leagues for years. It's something I've just learned to live with.

BBGiovanni · 08-18-2016, 12:52 AM

I understand that the placement is wonky, with lopsided divisions and whatnot, but I always assumed giving them only a few minor league clubs to start was by design, so they had fewer roster spots to have to fill with free agents (most of whom will be 1-star dead-enders anyway). I agree it's irritating to have to move the teams around and edit their names/cities and so on. But I found the limited minors to be sensible. Anyway, think about playing out the year and manually adding the rest of the levels the next year.

BigRed75 · 08-18-2016, 01:03 AM

The thing is that they don't give them a few minor league teams. Expansion teams get seven minor league teams, just like (most) of the other teams. It's just that the distribution of those teams across levels is jacked.

And towns in California get teams in the New York-Penn League...

08-14-2016, 08:30 PM	#1
HuachucaThunder Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 211	Minor League team placement after MANUAL expansion Is this a bug or a random occurrence? If random, I have bad luck with this. I have started several new games starting with the 2016 season (real life). After the 2016 season ended, I decided I would expand the league by 2 teams and go to a 4 division format in each league, for a total of 32 teams. When checking my minor league teams. I noticed that the minor league teams are placed in the IL, EL, CAL, NYP x 2, and APP x 2 for 7 teams total. The problem is that the teams are not geographically correct going into these leagues. For example, I have 2 team (Santa Ana Waves - a California team) in the New York Penn league and the other was Carlsbad Rockets - another California based team) in the same New York Penn League. In the APP League, the teams were the Reno Bombers (Nevada based) and the Springfield Lumberjacks (Massachusetts based). All 4 teams are WAY out of the geographical regions of the leagues. This happens every time I try to start a new game with current rosters and teams and then want to expand.

08-14-2016, 09:57 PM	#2
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,423	This is not a bug, it's not a random occurence. The system is working as intended. Which sucks. It is such a PITA to move the expansion minor league teams to the correct leagues and rename them to geographically appropriate cities. But, I doubt it's going to get fixed any time soon, since it's basically window dressing. I feel your pain, dude. __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

08-15-2016, 06:56 PM	#6
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,423	It still doesn't fix the fact that expansion gives the new teams two short season A clubs, no Single-A club (just Advanced-A) and no complex league (GCL/AZL) club. The expansion has been broken in MLB-based leagues for years. It's something I've just learned to live with. __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

08-18-2016, 01:03 AM	#8
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,423	The thing is that they don't give them a few minor league teams. Expansion teams get seven minor league teams, just like (most) of the other teams. It's just that the distribution of those teams across levels is jacked. And towns in California get teams in the New York-Penn League... __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

08-14-2016, 10:40 PM	#3
ArcAngel All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bremen OH USA Posts: 1,019	What you can try is to set a region most approprite for each league before you manually expand. That should then limit the issue you are seeing.

08-18-2016, 12:52 AM	#7
BBGiovanni All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Republic of California Posts: 1,910	I understand that the placement is wonky, with lopsided divisions and whatnot, but I always assumed giving them only a few minor league clubs to start was by design, so they had fewer roster spots to have to fill with free agents (most of whom will be 1-star dead-enders anyway). I agree it's irritating to have to move the teams around and edit their names/cities and so on. But I found the limited minors to be sensible. Anyway, think about playing out the year and manually adding the rest of the levels the next year.