Does anyone else notice this, or have this happen in their games?

[DJP53916]

I've played a few different games, a few different tweaks to the settings (still trying to find the ones I want ), but I have noticed I have a few teams that always seem willing to make decent trades with me, and a few that I can't get anything done with as well.

I play as the Milwaukee Brewers each time, and it seems like if I shop a player, the Reds, Nationals, Rangers, and White Sox seem to be the most willing to offer back something decent, while teams like Rays, Rockies, and Blue Jays don't really offer back anything that I'm interested in. The Cardinals either offer me absolute trash, or players out for significant time with major injuries.

If I skip the "Shop a Player" step, and just try to put together a package on my own, again, the Reds, Nationals, Rangers, and White Sox all tend to either accept the offer outright, or they'll ask for that one more player that really isn't going anywhere in my organization, so I can easily close the deal, where the Rays and Rockies want one of my top two or three prospects even when trading I'm offering them what I think is fair value (like a LF prospect with a 60 potential rating for a 2B prospect with a 52 potential rating for example).

I'm sure real life GMs have their buddies they can easily make trades with, and others that always seem to stonewall or otherwise hardline them, so I actually think this is pretty cool that it works out this way when I play.

I'm just curious if anyone else notices this in their games, and who they tend to have easier times and more difficult times making trades with.

[NoOne]

position strength weakness of prospects / mlb players and the different scouting results of each team are probably the biggest factors. their mode may cause a preference for prospects vs. vets... plus your own choices of settings augment all of this further.

so, there's alot of moving parts. it's impossible to tell you the best way to create value. you'll have to look at each team's situation. a really good talent can trump 'need' on occasion. always test the waters... use different packages exploiting needs.

as far as shop player, i use that only to save myself the work of finding a suitable trade partner. i figure this shows me which team's scouts think highly of the player as well as a need on their team. don't expect it to be perfect.. this is just somethign that's fast and messy.

[DJP53916]

Originally Posted by NoOne

position strength weakness of prospects / mlb players and the different scouting results of each team are probably the biggest factors. their mode may cause a preference for prospects vs. vets... plus your own choices of settings augment all of this further.

so, there's alot of moving parts. it's impossible to tell you the best way to create value. you'll have to look at each team's situation. a really good talent can trump 'need' on occasion. always test the waters... use different packages exploiting needs.

as far as shop player, i use that only to save myself the work of finding a suitable trade partner. i figure this shows me which team's scouts think highly of the player as well as a need on their team. don't expect it to be perfect.. this is just somethign that's fast and messy.

But I tend to notice this as well when I ask for Player X (even if I don't have an obvious need for Player X), and offer Player Y (even if it don't look like the other team really needs to have Player Y). I also notice even when I get a proposal from a team like the White Sox (for example), they'll offer me someone who I could find a fit for somewhere in my organization, and who they ask for back tends to be reasonable for who they offer. If they offer me someone like Avasail Garcia, they'll ask me for Garin Cecchini and Andy Wilkins back. If they ask for someone like Jorge Lopez, they offer me a Carson Fullmer or Tim Anderson back. I may not personally make those trades, but I can usually find something else we can work on if I feel a trade is something I'm looking to do. While it may not be exactly those players in an offer, you get the idea of the types of offers I get from a team like the White Sox.

On the other hand, if I get a proposal from someone like Tampa Bay, they want something like Lucroy and Isan Diaz , or Keon Broxton AND Orlando Arcia or Brett Phillips, and they're nice enough to offer me back Logan Morrison. Again, it's not necessarily always these players involved in the offer, but you get the idea of the types of offers I receive from the Rays.

I don't know if this is just a quirk with the settings I'm trying out during the game, or if there is something programmed in where some teams will just have better success with more reasonable trade offers with some teams, and others just don't happen. Either way, I like that this happens, because I'm sure every GM in real life has other GMs and teams they enjoy working with, and others who they just don't often see eye-to-eye with. I think it adds some unexpected realism to a game that already offered more realism than any one of us could have even imagined was possible before we first played. If it was unintentional/accidental, who cares? I like it.

[BigRed75]

In my just-completed Dodgers season I found that I ended up making a lot of trades with the White Sox as well. Three or four, I lost count.

[redranger]

Shopping a player only gives you a one for one deal. I typically only use it to see what teams may be most interested in a particular player. I rarely do one for ones and mostly go into the trade screen and try to build a package deal. Teams needs will play a role in who is showing interest so if all your deals are spanning in the same year or repeat created years with the same build, roster, or quick start it is likely that the teams interested will vary little


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[DJP53916]

Originally Posted by redranger

Shopping a player only gives you a one for one deal. I typically only use it to see what teams may be most interested in a particular player. I rarely do one for ones and mostly go into the trade screen and try to build a package deal. Teams needs will play a role in who is showing interest so if all your deals are spanning in the same year or repeat created years with the same build, roster, or quick start it is likely that the teams interested will vary little


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I know it starts with a one for one proposal, unless you you get an email from a team proposing trade offers to you. And I usually do build up from the one for one offers when I shop a player.

But even when I play several years out from 2016, I notice the same teams still are easiest to deal with. Even if situations change for each team, the same four I mentioned above still same easiest to work with.

I'm sure if I picked a different team to play with, it's likely different teams are easier to trade with. My next game I start, I'm going to take Colorado, so I can see what happens with them and potential trade partners.

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[Hammercraft]

Originally Posted by redranger

Shopping a player only gives you a one for one deal. I typically only use it to see what teams may be most interested in a particular player. I rarely do one for ones and mostly go into the trade screen and try to build a package deal. Teams needs will play a role in who is showing interest so if all your deals are spanning in the same year or repeat created years with the same build, roster, or quick start it is likely that the teams interested will vary little

This is exactly what I do most of the time. However, sometimes I won't get offers from teams that really could use a guy and would be willing to trade for him because of money reasons. So if I don't see a combination of prospects I like I'll dig into the league reports to find out who's weak at the spot I'm offering and try to work out a deal. Sometimes though there are organizations that won't ever accept anything close to even, they're just jerks about it.

[jpeters1734]

In one of EA's NHL games a few back had relationships with other GM's which I thought was a fantastic feature. I am certain that relationships with other GMs are a very real thing that affects trades.

[wallewalls]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

In one of EA's NHL games a few back had relationships with other GM's which I thought was a fantastic feature. I am certain that relationships with other GMs are a very real thing that affects trades.

I also thought that was a really great feature and youre dead on because as a Yankees fan, I cant even count how many deals they have made with the dbacks, mariners and tigers recently.

I wish there was something like this in ootp where its easier to deal with certain gms. for example, it would be harder to make deals with in division rivals, and you can eventually build up relationships with other gm's because I believe its definitely a factor in the real mlb

[NoOne]

Originally Posted by DJP53916

I don't know if this is just a quirk with the settings I'm trying out during the game, or if there is something programmed in where some teams will just have better success with more reasonable trade offers with some teams, and others just don't happen. Either way, I like that this happens, because I'm sure every GM in real life has other GMs and teams they enjoy working with, and others who they just don't often see eye-to-eye with. I think it adds some unexpected realism to a game that already offered more realism than any one of us could have even imagined was possible before we first played. If it was unintentional/accidental, who cares? I like it.

This is the first year i've seen more than 1 decent trade proposed through email... not one i would accept but it wasn't the typical LQ reliever for an all-star in return. it's happening a ton more often.

it's definitely random... even if it's 2 managers that just kind of sync up on accident or due to ratings/strategies meshing - it's still random that he's on whatever team he is on at the time and which other gm is complementing him in a way that produces more trades is totally random event. i.e. it's not like EA NHL from what i can tell.

maybe similar results, but different means of getting there... imo. same phenotype, different genotype (for the biology buffs out there)

[MrBojangles]

I'm finding in my fictional league that the Angels and Dodgers are a sure source of great pitching prospects and want very little in exchange.

Must be the SoCal sun baking their brains.