Atlanta Crackers/political correctness

[Reed]

Atlanta Crackers 1901-1965 won more pennants than any other professional baseball club during that period except for the Yankees. There's a nice article about them at Wikipedia.

Anyway, a few years ago in an online league I picked that name for my team since I live in Georgia. Some of the Northern players objected to that name saying it was a derogatory term. I tried to point out the rich history of the team but they weren't convince so I picked another name.

I'm sure Marcus will be historically correct and I'm looking forward to Managing the Atlanta Crackers and their players such as Eddie Mathews, Tommy Aaron, Skip Carey, Ernie Harwell and numerous other stars.

[Padreman]

I enjoy a nice cracker nothing wrong with crackers. I prefer the salty ones

[DustinthePOWERHOUSE]

Originally Posted by Padreman

I enjoy a nice cracker nothing wrong with crackers. I prefer the salty ones

Thanks for the insight P-Man.

I mean if it was the team name it was the team name I don't see why OOTP should censor itself just for political correctness (I'm not even sure this qualifies)

[swampdragon]

You're running the show, and you can edit the nicknames as you see fit, regardless of how it's handled in the game.

[r0nster]

Atlanta Crackers the only team to trade for an radio announcer... Ernie Harwell a HOF announcer too

[tejdog1]

Eh. Saltines >>>>> Crackers

[joefromchicago]

I believe the name was short for "Firecrackers."

[Mr. Marlin]

I guess the Montgomery Rebels are doomed too!

[texasmame]

Victory song: Puttin' on the Ritz.

[DreamTeams]

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

I believe the name was short for "Firecrackers."

joefromchicago seems to be the closest. Here's some more info from Wikipedia. Not sure how reliable but sounds reasonable...

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Origin of the team's name

According to Tim Darnell, who wrote The Crackers: Early Days of Atlanta Baseball, the origins of the team name is unknown. Darnell cites several possibilities as to why this name was chosen:

• A term that means a poor, white southerner
• Someone who is quick and efficient at a task
• In reference to plowboys who cracked the whip over animals
• A shortened version of "Atlanta Firecrackers", the earlier 1892 minor league team

However, this list does not represent the most likely origins of the name. The term cracker is derived from the Gaelic craic, meaning entertaining conversation or boasting, with the latter sense still attested in the idiom "not all [subject]'s cracked up to be."[6] It was used in the 18th century to denote Irish and Scottish colonists of the Deep South backcountry. The Earl of Dartmouth had this to say in a 1766 correspondence: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

During the period of Reconstruction following the American Civil War, there was also a political party of the same name. Organized in Augusta, Georgia, this party's platform was one of "opposition to Catholics and segregation of blacks".

While now sometimes used as a derogatory term for a white southerner that promotes racism, it is also used as a term of pride by some white southerners to indicate one that is descended from those original settlers of the area.

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Also there was a famous negro league club that adopted the name, as well. So, perhaps it's not a reference to the derogatory term...

[Assos]

If you are bringing this up, think of the players with this nickname because they were tan.

Nig Clarke Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

[The Wolf]

You can't judge historical people and events by modern standards. "The past is a foreign country, they do things differently there. "

[bwburke94]

Does MLB have the right to block use of the "Atlanta Crackers" name? Unlike with the OOTP 15 team name situation, I don't believe they own the trademark.

[jokerhusky1129]

Off-topic at the topic at hand, but does "relate" to it....anyone notice Chief Wahoo is nowhere to be seen in the Indians historical logos in 16?

[bwburke94]

Originally Posted by jokerhusky1129

Off-topic at the topic at hand, but does "relate" to it....anyone notice Chief Wahoo is nowhere to be seen in the Indians historical logos in 16?

Last time I tried posting a thread about that, it got buried and eventually moved.

In any case, I just put Chief Wahoo in my logos folder and manually re-import it for the appropriate years. Same for the 1980s Braves.

[DustinthePOWERHOUSE]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

Last time I tried posting a thread about that, it got buried and eventually moved.

In any case, I just put Chief Wahoo in my logos folder and manually re-import it for the appropriate years. Same for the 1980s Braves.

There's also no "cub" logo with he actual cub in the historical logo file which is a bummer. I used the same method as you, but I switched all my modern day logos for historic ones and that one was missed out on.

[r0nster]

Logos are indeed in game. Go to team settings and modify logo and you will see when logo was in use and you can use that logo if you like it and click save

[The Game]

Despite the fact i am a Blackhawks & Fightin' Irish fan, I despise Redskins, Indians & Crackers name.

[Mr. Marlin]

Never mind

[jokerhusky1129]

This guy's got the right idea:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/234818...in/photostream