Scheduling Issue

HuachucaThunder · 07-20-2015, 12:20 AM

I just ran into something that just does not make sense. I currently had a doubleheader, due to a rain out on April 17. Not an issue because of the possible rain outs in this version. But now on August 12, I had the make up game against the New York Yankees, with the Yankees being the home team and the team I am managing, the Chicago White Sox as the visitors. But, the way this was scheduled for the doubleheader was the make up game was played in New York first, and then the second part of the doubleheader is to be played in Chicago. Not a big issue, but just the fact that this would NEVER happen IRL unless the teams were VERY close together, Chicago and Milwaukee for example. Maybe a coding issue? Seems to me, this is one of those games that could have been scheduled at the end of the season, if needed, or it is just dropped completely.

Le Grande Orange · 07-20-2015, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HuachucaThunder

I just ran into something that just does not make sense. I currently had a doubleheader, due to a rain out on April 17. Not an issue because of the possible rain outs in this version. But now on August 12, I had the make up game against the New York Yankees, with the Yankees being the home team and the team I am managing, the Chicago White Sox as the visitors. But, the way this was scheduled for the doubleheader was the make up game was played in New York first, and then the second part of the doubleheader is to be played in Chicago. Not a big issue, but just the fact that this would NEVER happen IRL unless the teams were VERY close together, Chicago and Milwaukee for example. Maybe a coding issue?

This is ultimately a result of a limitation within OOTP. That is, from what I understand, the financial engine needs every club to have its full slate of home games or else things eventually go out of kilter. So you get OOTP scheduling the game the way you saw so that neither New York nor Chicago loses out on a home game and its associated revenue.

(In real life things are a bit more interesting. When a postponed game can't be made up in the park where it was originally scheduled, it'll be made up in the other club's park. But when that happens the 'home' club actually bats first as if it was the away team, though the game is still counted statistically as a home game. This is the result of a rule change made in 2007.)

bwburke94 · 07-20-2015, 03:48 AM

Under the current MLB setup, if the last game of a nondivisional or interleague series is rained out and at least one team has to travel the next day, the game has to be made up on a common off day.

However, the original poster cannot be using the 2015 MLB schedule as a template because there were no AL Central @ AL East matchups that week. It is still possible that the April 15-17 series was the White Sox' only trip to New York and there were no common off days other than the All-Star break, but OOTP should normally have scheduled it the day after the regular season ended.

Le Grande Orange · 07-20-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

... OOTP should normally have scheduled it the day after the regular season ended.

Which is something else it shouldn't do if the game has no bearing on a division title or wild card race. But the financial engine limitations are the reason why it happens.

HuachucaThunder · 07-20-2015, 11:57 PM

Thanks for your replies. I appreciate it.
As for what bwburke said about the schedule, it is the 1985 schedule template. The thing that I did not get about the home/away doubleheader was that on August 2, 3, and 4, the White Sox were at the New York Yankees again, so I figured the game would have been made up then. I do understand about the limitations of the financial engine. And I am sure that if it were to be made to cancel a game altogether, the writing of new lines of code would be a taxing situation on the developers. Believe me, this little schedule hiccup is certainly not a deal breaker as far as the game and any upcoming versions. I just thought it was really a strange thing to happen.

Le Grande Orange · 07-21-2015, 03:41 AM

It's a bit unfortunate the financial engine apparently can't handle clubs not all playing the same number of games as that is one of the reasons to have postponed games—in real life clubs don't always finish with the same number of games played. (Happens rarely these days but it was more common back in the 154-game era, especially before 1946.)

07-20-2015, 12:20 AM	#1
HuachucaThunder Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 211	Scheduling Issue I just ran into something that just does not make sense. I currently had a doubleheader, due to a rain out on April 17. Not an issue because of the possible rain outs in this version. But now on August 12, I had the make up game against the New York Yankees, with the Yankees being the home team and the team I am managing, the Chicago White Sox as the visitors. But, the way this was scheduled for the doubleheader was the make up game was played in New York first, and then the second part of the doubleheader is to be played in Chicago. Not a big issue, but just the fact that this would NEVER happen IRL unless the teams were VERY close together, Chicago and Milwaukee for example. Maybe a coding issue? Seems to me, this is one of those games that could have been scheduled at the end of the season, if needed, or it is just dropped completely.

07-20-2015, 03:48 AM	#3
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,506	Under the current MLB setup, if the last game of a nondivisional or interleague series is rained out and at least one team has to travel the next day, the game has to be made up on a common off day. However, the original poster cannot be using the 2015 MLB schedule as a template because there were no AL Central @ AL East matchups that week. It is still possible that the April 15-17 series was the White Sox' only trip to New York and there were no common off days other than the All-Star break, but OOTP should normally have scheduled it the day after the regular season ended.

07-20-2015, 11:57 PM	#5
HuachucaThunder Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 211	Thanks for your replies. I appreciate it. As for what bwburke said about the schedule, it is the 1985 schedule template. The thing that I did not get about the home/away doubleheader was that on August 2, 3, and 4, the White Sox were at the New York Yankees again, so I figured the game would have been made up then. I do understand about the limitations of the financial engine. And I am sure that if it were to be made to cancel a game altogether, the writing of new lines of code would be a taxing situation on the developers. Believe me, this little schedule hiccup is certainly not a deal breaker as far as the game and any upcoming versions. I just thought it was really a strange thing to happen.

07-21-2015, 03:41 AM	#6
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	It's a bit unfortunate the financial engine apparently can't handle clubs not all playing the same number of games as that is one of the reasons to have postponed games—in real life clubs don't always finish with the same number of games played. (Happens rarely these days but it was more common back in the 154-game era, especially before 1946.)