Are the White Sox crazy??

[Habsfan18]

Kyle Meyers, a 3rd round pick in 2014, has an outstanding rookie season for the White Sox. He's an all-star, rookie of the year, Silver Slugger at 1B and 3rd in AL MVP voting. It's only one season, but he looks like he's going to be a building block for years to come.

What do they do? Trade him in the off-season to the Yankees for a minor leaguer and a pitching prospect playing A-ball. To be fair, the prospect is ranked 11th in the entire MLB by OSA, but that's incredibly unrealistic.

I've actually seen this a few times now. Teams will trade young players coming off great starts to their career. I just don't see this happening in real life.

I'm actually thinking of nixing this trade. I just don't see any scenario where a team would trade a guy coming off a rookie season like this. I suppose I can imagine he asked for a trade, although the game didn't specify this. But seriously this kinda ticked me off.

For those asking, I have my AI evaluation settings listed at 40-30-20-10.

[SirMichaelJordan]

What was his overall rating using those settings?

He should be atleast a 4* player after that line.

Lol I would boycott my team if that trade went down IRL. But then again I was a long time Marlins fan..

[Habsfan18]

Here are his ratings. He doesn't scream superstar based on his ratings, but look at those numbers for a rookie.

[MizzouRah]

What is he asking contract wise, I see this would be his last year at that cheap contract? The AI might have thought.. we better get some value for this player because we are not going to be able to afford him.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by Habsfan18

Here are his ratings. He doesn't scream superstar based on his ratings, but look at those numbers for a rookie.

Yea 2 1/2 is pretty average. Stuff like this is why I can't give much weight to ratings. I am currently playing with settings of 0/50/25/25. He'd probably be a 3 1/2 star player with that setting.

[TLB1975]

I feel your pain and agree with your assessment. This is something I see way too often. There's no way a team would trade him after that season, especially being his isn't even arbitration eligible for at least 1 more and maybe two more seasons.

Now if the AI had traded him for another ML player (a solid SP, etc..), I could live with it, especially if they have too much depth at the same position. But that's it.

[IsaacR]

Can we see the profiles of the players the White Sox acquired?

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by TLB1975

I feel your pain and agree with your assessment. This is something I see way too often. There's no way a team would trade him after that season, especially being his isn't even arbitration eligible for at least 1 more and maybe two more seasons.

Now if the AI had traded him for another ML player (a solid SP, etc..), I could live with it, especially if they have too much depth at the same position. But that's it.

I don't know all the rules so I guess he's due the league minimum after the 2018 contract expires?

[Habsfan18]

Here they are:

[TLB1975]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I don't know all the rules so I guess he's due the league minimum after the 2018 contract expires?

He would make league minimum until after his third full season in the majors It can happen earlier if he is "super 2 "status which means if he is in the top 22% of service time for all 2yr players, then he faces arbitration one year earlier

[IsaacR]

I'd make that trade if I where the White Sox, especially for a consensus top starting pitching prospect.

[MizzouRah]

Let us know Kyle pulls a Matt Adams next season.

[TLB1975]

Looking at the profiles of the players they acquired, it's not a totally bad trade. To me, it would depend on two things. Who is taking over for Meyers(was he playing at 1B or DH), and do they need an OF who can start in Poindexter or does he end up in the minors or on the bench. If it's the first, than I can understand the deal. Don't agree with it, but understand it.

[Habsfan18]

Originally Posted by IsaacR

I'd make that trade if I where the White Sox, especially for a consensus top starting pitching prospect.

Really? You would be fine with your team trading a rookie of the year who won a Silver Slugger, was an all-star and was voted 3rd in MVP voting while hitting .326 with a WAR over 5...for an admittedly good pitching prospect in A-ball?

I would be both furious and depressed for weeks lol

[TLB1975]

Originally Posted by Habsfan18

Really? You would be fine with your team trading a rookie of the year who won a Silver Slugger, was an all-star and was voted 3rd in MVP voting while hitting .326 with a WAR over 5...for an admittedly good pitching prospect in A-ball?

I would be both furious and depressed for weeks lol

Hard to imagine that's an MVP player, especially in the AL. How offensively challenged is your league?

[Habsfan18]

Originally Posted by TLB1975

Looking at the profiles of the players they acquired, it's not a totally bad trade. To me, it would depend on two things. Who is taking over for Meyers(was he playing at 1B or DH), and do they need an OF who can start in Poindexter or does he end up in the minors or on the bench. If it's the first, than I can understand the deal. Don't agree with it, but understand it.

Poindexter will almost definitely be a utility outfielder for the Sox, possibly even playing in AAA where he's actually pretty good.

As for Meyers replacement, they have a kid with decent ratings who hit .269 with 18 homers in AAA this past season slated to take over the every day 1B job. In a 32 game stint in the Majors, he hit .171 and was a -0.2 WAR.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

What is he asking contract wise, I see this would be his last year at that cheap contract? The AI might have thought.. we better get some value for this player because we are not going to be able to afford him.

Yea it seem like the AI act in this manner, considering the rating of the player its not really a bad trade if we are not taking stats into consideration. They dumped a 2 1/2 star player (what was his potential?) for some prospects and one of them is ranked top 20.

[IsaacR]

Originally Posted by Habsfan18

Really? You would be fine with your team trading a rookie of the year who won a Silver Slugger, was an all-star and was voted 3rd in MVP voting while hitting .326 with a WAR over 5...for an admittedly good pitching prospect in A-ball?

I would be both furious and depressed for weeks lol

I was fine with trading Manny Machado and Chris Davis for Giolito, Trea Turner, Drew Ward, Felipe Rivero, Blake Treinen, and Tanner Roark in one of my online leagues... Only way to effectively GM... distance yourself from the names.


I probably would've asked for another 2-3 star prospect in return for him, but I'd be fine with the pitching prospect and the 4th outfielder type.

[Habsfan18]

Originally Posted by TLB1975

Hard to imagine that's an MVP player, especially in the AL. How offensively challenged is your league?

Offense has been on the down swing in recent seasons, with the AL averaging .255 I believe in the most recent year.

I get that they got a damn good pitching prospect in the deal, but let's all try to think realistically here. Would any GM in their right mind actually trade a guy coming off THAT rookie season for a prospect and a utility/AAA player?

[IsaacR]

Also, loving that Chris Poindexter is described as "pretty smart."