Yet another "another reason I love this game" thread

[Habsfan18]

Another reason I love this game, is that there's much more of a story to tell with players than just their overall and potential ratings.

Case in point, Ben Gallagher..who in my file will likely win the AL Rookie of the Year award. After your initial look at him, you say alright..seems like a pretty good/average player. 3 star rating and potential. Pretty decent in every offensive category (you'll note he's particularly good at avoiding strikeouts). You check his scouting report. Should be able to hit around .250 for contact. Basically a good average Major League player. But nothing stands out that says star.

Mr. Gallagher went on to a pretty impressive rookie season. Flash in the pan? Time will tell, but that's one of the things I love about this game. The overall ratings don't tell the entire story. I've had guys with 4 star current and potential ratings hit in the low .200's and have had guys with 2 stars lead the entire Majors in batting average.

Also LOVE TCR. It's amazing to see guys picked in the 12th round who appear to be low Minor fodder end up having great Major League careers.

So moral of the story, don't place TOO MUCH emphasis on overall or potential ratings.

[Habsfan18]

He ended up AL Rookie of the Year and Silver Slugger at 3B.

[Ts-Rock]

silver slugger award with only 5 HRs and sub .500 slug? down year in the lg at 3B huh?

Edit: I would have played him at 2B in ST to get him to learn it, he seems to be a tailored made 2B to me, no power, lots of speed (though poor SB success), high DP and weaker arm,

[PSUColonel]

What are his OF ratings? Could also potentially be a good RF

[ra7c7er]

Same here I enjoy finding guys who should be at best middling scrubs and seeing them have a HOF career.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by Habsfan18

Another reason I love this game, is that there's much more of a story to tell with players than just their overall and potential ratings.

Case in point, Ben Gallagher..who in my file will likely win the AL Rookie of the Year award. After your initial look at him, you say alright..seems like a pretty good/average player. 3 star rating and potential. Pretty decent in every offensive category (you'll note he's particularly good at avoiding strikeouts). You check his scouting report. Should be able to hit around .250 for contact. Basically a good average Major League player. But nothing stands out that says star.

Mr. Gallagher went on to a pretty impressive rookie season. Flash in the pan? Time will tell, but that's one of the things I love about this game. The overall ratings don't tell the entire story. I've had guys with 4 star current and potential ratings hit in the low .200's and have had guys with 2 stars lead the entire Majors in batting average.

Also LOVE TCR. It's amazing to see guys picked in the 12th round who appear to be low Minor fodder end up having great Major League careers.

So moral of the story, don't place TOO MUCH emphasis on overall or potential ratings.

Prime example of why I hide OVR/POT and make decisions on stats and individual ratings and use AI evaluation thats stats heavy (25% Ratings).

...And disagree that pure ratings benefit the AI buts thats for another topic lol.

[ThatSeventiesGuy]

This kind of thing will happen. I have a 3-star second baseman who's won 3 MVPs in six seasons.

[Rockfan616]

It's great to find someone like that isn't it?? I don't do fictional leagues per se, I do have a fictional AAA and AA though in my fantasy league season however and I'm finding some players in those leagues who have great potential as big leaguers so that's pretty cool too. Glad your having fun with it!!

[xx2khazard]

So what do you guys you use at tcr?

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by xx2khazard

So what do you guys you use at tcr?

I go all out with 200 so I see the occasional Mike Piazza or a serviceable guy who was picked in the 30th round.

[Habsfan18]

Originally Posted by Ts-Rock

silver slugger award with only 5 HRs and sub .500 slug? down year in the lg at 3B huh?

Edit: I would have played him at 2B in ST to get him to learn it, he seems to be a tailored made 2B to me, no power, lots of speed (though poor SB success), high DP and weaker arm,

I'm not the GM or Manager of the Twins. I'm simply watching the league unfold as a spectator. They must feel he's better off right now at 3B. Perhaps the organization is stronger in the OF. I'll have to check.

But yeah, maybe his numbers (power at least) don't scream Silver Slugger, but it was still a damn impressive season with the bat. .320 average, .372 OBP, 40 doubles, 13 triples, 5 WAR. The AI chose the award winners btw, not me.

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

What are his OF ratings? Could also potentially be a good RF

I'll check for sure, but I believe his OF ratings are indeed higher, but like I said, the Twins likely needed him at 3B.

[Gai1997]

Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

Prime example of why I hide OVR/POT and make decisions on stats and individual ratings and use AI evaluation thats stats heavy (25% Ratings).

...And disagree that pure ratings benefit the AI buts thats for another topic lol.

I'm planning to do a stats only league, what settings do you think I should put for the AI Evaluation? And anything else that you do that works? I also plan to have no ratings whatsoever. I make my decisions on stats only. Or is this a dumb idea? I won't know anything about a player besides his stats.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by Gai1997

I'm planning to do a stats only league, what settings do you think I should put for the AI Evaluation? And anything else that you do that works? I also plan to have no ratings whatsoever. I make my decisions on stats only. Or is this a dumb idea? I won't know anything about a player besides his stats.

Well I don't play "stats only" I hide OVR/POT but the ratings for individual skills like contact are shown. I also give 25% weight to ratings, not 0 and the rest of the evaluation are stat based so guys in the OP example are valued more by the AI.

[Gai1997]

Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

Well I don't play "stats only" I hide OVR/POT but the ratings for individual skills like contact are shown. I also give 25% weight to ratings, not 0 and the rest of the evaluation are stat based so guys in the OP example are valued more by the AI.

Doesn't it make you lean on ratings a lot though? Or do you mostly look at stats? Debating whether I should go completely stats or just ratings. Cause I can kind of guess their overall (not their potential, I'm bad at that) without stars and looking at ratings.

Also, if it's not too much trouble could you tell what you put for these 4 spots top to bottom? I know ratings is 25% but I want to do it like you do.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by Gai1997

Doesn't it make you lean on ratings a lot though? Or do you mostly look at stats? Debating whether I should go completely stats or just ratings. Cause I can kind of guess their overall (not their potential, I'm bad at that) without stars and looking at ratings.

Also, if it's not too much trouble could you tell what you put for these 4 spots top to bottom? I know ratings is 25% but I want to do it like you do.

I use 25% even.

25% Ratings
25% Current year
25% Last year
25% 2 Years ago

It doesn't make me lean on ratings because even with the example on the OP, the guy has average hitting across the board but his avoid K helps him stay in at bats. He'll probably fall back to reality and become a .250 .260 hitter but if I was relying on OVR/POT rather than the individual ratings and his production, I'd probably would have traded that guy knowing that he's 25 and his potential max at 3 stars.

[Habsfan18]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

What are his OF ratings? Could also potentially be a good RF

Definitely a good enough arm for RF. Good range.

[SodoMojo]

These two screenshots tell the story of another reason why I too love OOTP. All from guy who's personality summary was: "He often shows a lack of effort"

Too bad he didn't play for my team.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by SodoMojo

These two screenshots tell the story of another reason why I too love OOTP. All from guy who's personality summary was: "He often shows a lack of effort"



Too bad he didn't play for my team.

Apparently he's the Shaq of baseball lol.

[tejdog1]

He seems like the ideal SS to me.