Mount Rushmore for each of the 30 MLB franchises

actionjackson · 04-08-2015, 06:51 PM

The MLBNetwork announced a cool contest this morning called the Franchise Four. Let's hear it, who's on your "Mount Rushmore" for each franchise? We're talking all-timers here, and for now I'm putting Expos with Nationals, Senators with Twins etc which may not sit well with fans of these current franchises, but after all they are all part of the same franchise. I'll take a shot at kicking it off:

Arizona: Randy Johnson, Brandon Webb, Luis Gonzalez, Curt Schilling

Atlanta: Hank Aaron, Kid Nichols, Warren Spahn, Eddie Mathews

Baltimore: Cal Ripken Jr., Brooks Robinson, Jim Palmer, Eddie Murray

Boston: Ted Williams, Carl Yastrzemski, Roger Clemens, Wade Boggs

ChiCubs: Cap Anson, Ron Santo, Ryne Sandberg, Ernie Banks

ChiSox: Luke Appling, Ted Lyons, Frank Thomas, Eddie Collins

Cincinnati: Pete Rose, Johnny Bench, Barry Larkin, Frank Robinson

Cleveland: Nap Lajoie, Tris Speaker, Bob Feller, Lou Boudreau

Colorado: Todd Helton, Larry Walker, Troy Tulowitzki, Carlos Gonzalez

Detroit: Ty Cobb, Al Kaline, Charlie Gehringer, Lou Whitaker

Houston: Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Jose Cruz Sr., Cesar Cedeno

Kansas City: George Brett, Kevin Appier, Amos Otis, Willie Wilson

LA Angels: Chuck Finley, Jim Fregosi, Tim Salmon, Nolan Ryan

LA Dodgers: Don Drysdale, Pee Wee Reese, Duke Snider, Jackie Robinson

Miami: Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson, Luis Castillo, Giancarlo Stanton

Milwaukee: Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Ryan Braun, Teddy Higuera

Minnesota: Walter Johnson, Rod Carew, Harmon Killebrew, Sam Rice

NY Mets: Tom Seaver, David Wright, Dwight Gooden, Jerry Koosman

NY Yankees: Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio

Oakland: Eddie Plank, Rickey Henderson, Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove

Philadelphia: Mike Schmidt, Robin Roberts, Steve Carlton, Chase Utley

Pittsburgh: Honus Wagner, Roberto Clemente, Paul Waner, Arky Vaughan

San Diego: Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, Jake Peavy, Trevor Hoffman

Seattle: Ken Griffey Jr., Edgar Martinez, Ichiro Suzuki, Felix Hernandez

San Francisco: Willie Mays, Barry Bonds, Mel Ott, Christy Mathewson

St. Louis: Stan Musial, Rogers Hornsby, Bob Gibson, Albert Pujols

Tampa Bay: Evan Longoria, Ben Zobrist, Carl Crawford, David Price

Texas: Ivan Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Buddy Bell, Ian Kinsler

Toronto: Dave Stieb, Roy Halladay, Tony Fernandez, Carlos Delgado

Washington: Gary Carter, Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, Steve Rogers

This is not an easy exercise. Keeping it to four is really tough, particularly for the oldest franchises. Let's see whatcha got.

Also, feel free to leave off PED guys, gamblers, racists, and whatever other types make you feel the player doesn't deserve the honour. It's your Mount Rushmore. You do as you please.

MorseMoose · 04-08-2015, 06:57 PM

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Minnesota: Walter Johnson, Rod Carew, Harmon Killebrew, Sam Rice

I don't mind Walter Johnson; but definitely not Sam Rice.

Walter Johnson
Rod Carew
Harmon Killebrew
Kirby Puckett

Take out Walter Johnson, and Tony Olivia jumps up into his spot.

RchW · 04-08-2015, 07:00 PM

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Jason · 04-08-2015, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

Philadelphia: Mike Schmidt, Robin Roberts, Steve Carlton, Chase Utley

Utley? No way.

Ed Delahanty would be the fourth. I could even see a case made for Grover Cleveland Alexander over Delahanty, but I'd go with Ed.

Airdrop01 · 04-08-2015, 07:26 PM

Kind of a cool topic.

KC:

George Brett; Bret Saberhagen; Amos Otis; Kevin Appier

The Game · 04-08-2015, 07:45 PM

ChiCubs: Cap Anson, Ron Santo, Ryne Sandberg, Ernie Banks

ChiSox: Luke Appling, Ted Lyons, Frank Thomas, Eddie Collins

Would have put Sammy in there at one point, I think either Fergie or Dawson should be there over Anson.

While Appling does have the #'s over anyone else i might name and being the only White Sox player to play 20 seasons with the White Sox and played his entire career with the Sox i think Fisk, Aparicio, Shoeless Joe or Baines should replace him. Billy Pierce, Mark Buehrle or even Sale at this point should replace Lyons. All 4 do have the stats over the ones i named but not all 4 are all time fan favs.

RchW · 04-08-2015, 08:04 PM

Some are very similar. Are they stealing HHS idea?

ihatenames · 04-08-2015, 08:09 PM

ChiCubs: Ernie Banks, Ryne Sandberg, Billy Williams, Gabby Hartnett

I'm torn on Sammy, but even without steroids these guys may have the edge.

swoboda · 04-08-2015, 08:09 PM

For the Mets I say:
Seaver
Gooden
Keith Hernandez
Tug McGraw

swoboda · 04-08-2015, 08:12 PM

For the Twins I say

Killebrew
Carew
Puckett
Tony Oliva

swoboda · 04-08-2015, 08:38 PM

for the original Washington Senators I say

Walter Johnson
Cecil Travis
Buddy Meyer
Sam Rice

Bluenoser · 04-08-2015, 09:16 PM

Roberto Alomar over Tony Fernandez - but Tony is deserving.

RchW · 04-08-2015, 09:37 PM

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Roberto Alomar over Tony Fernandez - but Tony is deserving.

It's not really close IMO.

canadiancreed · 04-08-2015, 10:45 PM

No love for Joe Carter?

As for Washington's Mount, they dont' want Montreal's history, they dont get their stars. Which out of Haper and Strasburg leaves their mountain quite blank?

For Montreals totally agree with the first three, but Steve Rogers seems a bit shaky. Andres Galaragga? Rusty Staub? Someone else?

ihatenames · 04-09-2015, 02:01 AM

I'd take Jose Vidro, Tim Wallach, Vlad Guerrero or Dennis Martinez over Rogers. I agree with Carter, Dawson and Raines.

Bluenoser · 04-09-2015, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

It's not really close IMO.

Agreed - Tony was such a likeable player when he was with the Jays. Was glad he was brought back in 93 to be part of that Championship.

Orcin · 04-09-2015, 09:17 AM

St. Louis: Stan Musial, Rogers Hornsby, Bob Gibson, Lou Brock (not Pujols)

Koprnkc · 04-09-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Airdrop01

Kind of a cool topic.

KC:

George Brett; Bret Saberhagen; Amos Otis; Kevin Appier

Sorry, Ape shouldn't be here. Frank White would be a better choice. Dudes got so many Gold Gloves. Ape was solid while he was here, but he didn't really pitch for any great Royals teams, and he wasn't stuck really pitching for the Royals dark ages teams.

Don't have a an issue with A.O. but I think Quiz was more important then he. Also, Busby, Leonard, and Randa might be better fits.

I would go:
Brett
White
Quiz
Sabes

But then that's why lists are fun.

MBarrett · 04-09-2015, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

St. Louis: Stan Musial, Rogers Hornsby, Bob Gibson, Lou Brock (not Pujols)

This kinda process really makes you appreciate all the great players that have donned a Cardinals cap. It's obvious we should be given an exception and permitted more than 4 spots on our mountain. We can take one of the Cubs, they won't use all of 'em anyways.

David Watts · 04-09-2015, 11:58 AM

Detroit---Cobb, Greenberg, Kaline and Trammell

Wish we could do some kind of half face thing with Gehringer/Greenberg and Trammell/Whitaker

04-08-2015, 06:51 PM	#1
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,181	Mount Rushmore for each of the 30 MLB franchises The MLBNetwork announced a cool contest this morning called the Franchise Four. Let's hear it, who's on your "Mount Rushmore" for each franchise? We're talking all-timers here, and for now I'm putting Expos with Nationals, Senators with Twins etc which may not sit well with fans of these current franchises, but after all they are all part of the same franchise. I'll take a shot at kicking it off: Arizona: Randy Johnson, Brandon Webb, Luis Gonzalez, Curt Schilling Atlanta: Hank Aaron, Kid Nichols, Warren Spahn, Eddie Mathews Baltimore: Cal Ripken Jr., Brooks Robinson, Jim Palmer, Eddie Murray Boston: Ted Williams, Carl Yastrzemski, Roger Clemens, Wade Boggs ChiCubs: Cap Anson, Ron Santo, Ryne Sandberg, Ernie Banks ChiSox: Luke Appling, Ted Lyons, Frank Thomas, Eddie Collins Cincinnati: Pete Rose, Johnny Bench, Barry Larkin, Frank Robinson Cleveland: Nap Lajoie, Tris Speaker, Bob Feller, Lou Boudreau Colorado: Todd Helton, Larry Walker, Troy Tulowitzki, Carlos Gonzalez Detroit: Ty Cobb, Al Kaline, Charlie Gehringer, Lou Whitaker Houston: Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Jose Cruz Sr., Cesar Cedeno Kansas City: George Brett, Kevin Appier, Amos Otis, Willie Wilson LA Angels: Chuck Finley, Jim Fregosi, Tim Salmon, Nolan Ryan LA Dodgers: Don Drysdale, Pee Wee Reese, Duke Snider, Jackie Robinson Miami: Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson, Luis Castillo, Giancarlo Stanton Milwaukee: Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Ryan Braun, Teddy Higuera Minnesota: Walter Johnson, Rod Carew, Harmon Killebrew, Sam Rice NY Mets: Tom Seaver, David Wright, Dwight Gooden, Jerry Koosman NY Yankees: Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio Oakland: Eddie Plank, Rickey Henderson, Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove Philadelphia: Mike Schmidt, Robin Roberts, Steve Carlton, Chase Utley Pittsburgh: Honus Wagner, Roberto Clemente, Paul Waner, Arky Vaughan San Diego: Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, Jake Peavy, Trevor Hoffman Seattle: Ken Griffey Jr., Edgar Martinez, Ichiro Suzuki, Felix Hernandez San Francisco: Willie Mays, Barry Bonds, Mel Ott, Christy Mathewson St. Louis: Stan Musial, Rogers Hornsby, Bob Gibson, Albert Pujols Tampa Bay: Evan Longoria, Ben Zobrist, Carl Crawford, David Price Texas: Ivan Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Buddy Bell, Ian Kinsler Toronto: Dave Stieb, Roy Halladay, Tony Fernandez, Carlos Delgado Washington: Gary Carter, Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, Steve Rogers This is not an easy exercise. Keeping it to four is really tough, particularly for the oldest franchises. Let's see whatcha got. Also, feel free to leave off PED guys, gamblers, racists, and whatever other types make you feel the player doesn't deserve the honour. It's your Mount Rushmore. You do as you please.

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RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	The excellent site High Heat Stats has been doing this for more than a year. Check it out. High Heat Stats » The Mount Rushmore of the Los Angeles Dodgers __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

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The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	ChiCubs: Cap Anson, Ron Santo, Ryne Sandberg, Ernie Banks ChiSox: Luke Appling, Ted Lyons, Frank Thomas, Eddie Collins Would have put Sammy in there at one point, I think either Fergie or Dawson should be there over Anson. While Appling does have the #'s over anyone else i might name and being the only White Sox player to play 20 seasons with the White Sox and played his entire career with the Sox i think Fisk, Aparicio, Shoeless Joe or Baines should replace him. Billy Pierce, Mark Buehrle or even Sale at this point should replace Lyons. All 4 do have the stats over the ones i named but not all 4 are all time fan favs. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

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RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Some are very similar. Are they stealing HHS idea? Attached Images __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

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ihatenames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford Posts: 2,534	ChiCubs: Ernie Banks, Ryne Sandberg, Billy Williams, Gabby Hartnett I'm torn on Sammy, but even without steroids these guys may have the edge. __________________ New Album coming soon!

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Airdrop01 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lenexa, KS / Wilson, WY Posts: 1,354	Kind of a cool topic. KC: George Brett; Bret Saberhagen; Amos Otis; Kevin Appier

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swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,220	For the Mets I say: Seaver Gooden Keith Hernandez Tug McGraw __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

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swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,220	For the Twins I say Killebrew Carew Puckett Tony Oliva __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

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swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,220	for the original Washington Senators I say Walter Johnson Cecil Travis Buddy Meyer Sam Rice __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

04-08-2015, 09:16 PM	#12
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,224	Roberto Alomar over Tony Fernandez - but Tony is deserving.

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canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	No love for Joe Carter? As for Washington's Mount, they dont' want Montreal's history, they dont get their stars. Which out of Haper and Strasburg leaves their mountain quite blank? For Montreals totally agree with the first three, but Steve Rogers seems a bit shaky. Andres Galaragga? Rusty Staub? Someone else? __________________ PT21 PT22

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ihatenames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford Posts: 2,534	I'd take Jose Vidro, Tim Wallach, Vlad Guerrero or Dennis Martinez over Rogers. I agree with Carter, Dawson and Raines. __________________ New Album coming soon!

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Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,850	St. Louis: Stan Musial, Rogers Hornsby, Bob Gibson, Lou Brock (not Pujols)

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David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,955 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Detroit---Cobb, Greenberg, Kaline and Trammell Wish we could do some kind of half face thing with Gehringer/Greenberg and Trammell/Whitaker