Error in 3-way tiebreaker for 1 Wild Card slot.

gads · 03-28-2015, 08:38 PM

I had a few 3-way tiebreakers (and even 4-way) in 16.1.5 but they were all handled correctly. But in 16.2.9, I just had my first 3-way tiebreak since 16.2.9, but it was handled wrongly.

Detroit Tigers, Los Angeles Angels and Seattle Mariners all tied with 85-77 for the Second Wild Card slot. For those that are interested, the 3 division winners are Toronto Blue Jays (84-78), Cleveland Indians (87-75) and Oakland Athletics (91-71) and the First Wild Card Club is Chicago White Sox with 86-76.

As for the tiebreakers, they just had Detroit Tigers play Seattle Mariners and Detroit Tigers won this game. Then the game put Detroit Tigers through and then the playoffs has started. By right, the winner of this game (i.e. Detroit Tigers is supposed to host Los Angeles Angels and the winner will then be the Second Wild Card Club.)

gads · 03-28-2015, 11:18 PM

Bump.

Matt Arnold · 03-29-2015, 06:17 AM

Please post in the bug reports thread and we can have a look at this next week.

Le Grande Orange · 03-30-2015, 01:26 AM

Yeah, unfortunately, sometimes OOTP misfires when it comes to three clubs tied for a single playoff spot. It will do it right sometimes and other times it will exclude one of the tied clubs. I never could spot any pattern to it.

(Things get more funky when there's a simultaneous tie for a division title and one or more wild card spots. OOTP will usually get it wrong, that is, it won't go by current MLB rules.)

mad0die · 05-06-2015, 12:25 AM

:bump:

Happened to my online league tonight. 3-way tie for the final wild card and 2 of them got to play each other for the playoff entry while the 3rd didn't get a shot. Seems like it gave best run differential home field advantage and put 2nd best run differential against them. 3rd run differential team is pretty pissed they didn't get a game.

Le Grande Orange · 05-06-2015, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad0die

Happened to my online league tonight. 3-way tie for the final wild card and 2 of them got to play each other for the playoff entry while the 3rd didn't get a shot. Seems like it gave best run differential home field advantage and put 2nd best run differential against them. 3rd run differential team is pretty pissed they didn't get a game.

I doubt it's coded to use run differential—that's probably just a coincidence. I think it's either random or it goes by team ID or some other similar thing.

Kabel · 05-06-2015, 02:10 PM

We had a similar situation last night in our league, Three way tie, and it appears the game seeded teams by alphabetical order.

03-28-2015, 08:38 PM	#1
gads Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 137	Error in 3-way tiebreaker for 1 Wild Card slot. I had a few 3-way tiebreakers (and even 4-way) in 16.1.5 but they were all handled correctly. But in 16.2.9, I just had my first 3-way tiebreak since 16.2.9, but it was handled wrongly. Detroit Tigers, Los Angeles Angels and Seattle Mariners all tied with 85-77 for the Second Wild Card slot. For those that are interested, the 3 division winners are Toronto Blue Jays (84-78), Cleveland Indians (87-75) and Oakland Athletics (91-71) and the First Wild Card Club is Chicago White Sox with 86-76. As for the tiebreakers, they just had Detroit Tigers play Seattle Mariners and Detroit Tigers won this game. Then the game put Detroit Tigers through and then the playoffs has started. By right, the winner of this game (i.e. Detroit Tigers is supposed to host Los Angeles Angels and the winner will then be the Second Wild Card Club.)

05-06-2015, 12:25 AM	#5
mad0die All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: TX Posts: 913	:bump: Happened to my online league tonight. 3-way tie for the final wild card and 2 of them got to play each other for the playoff entry while the 3rd didn't get a shot. Seems like it gave best run differential home field advantage and put 2nd best run differential against them. 3rd run differential team is pretty pissed they didn't get a game. __________________ Commish GUBA

05-06-2015, 02:10 PM	#7
Kabel Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 30	We had a similar situation last night in our league, Three way tie, and it appears the game seeded teams by alphabetical order. __________________

03-28-2015, 11:18 PM	#2
gads Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 137	Bump.

03-29-2015, 06:17 AM	#3
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,880	Please post in the bug reports thread and we can have a look at this next week.

03-30-2015, 01:26 AM	#4
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	Yeah, unfortunately, sometimes OOTP misfires when it comes to three clubs tied for a single playoff spot. It will do it right sometimes and other times it will exclude one of the tied clubs. I never could spot any pattern to it. (Things get more funky when there's a simultaneous tie for a division title and one or more wild card spots. OOTP will usually get it wrong, that is, it won't go by current MLB rules.)