Draft pick Compensation

Gai1997 · 03-10-2015, 07:49 AM

If I have the #28 pick in the draft (1st Round) and I don't sign the player, do I get two first rounders next year?

1 pick for the missed #28 one as compensation
1 pick as my regular pick due to my record

Do I get two or just one?

Also same question but for all rounds.

Could I potentially purposely not sign my first 5 picks (Rounds 1-5) and have 10 picks in the first 5 rounds the next season? Could I end up stockpiling around 20 picks years down the line? How far can this go?

Thanks guys!

mpejkrm · 03-10-2015, 08:17 AM

Haha, I never thought of it that way, but yes, you get compensation picks for unsigned picks in the top five rounds. But the pick is one later than the one you missed. So if you don't sign #28 you get #29 (barring other unsigned picks).

That's an exploit I never thought of. Good catch.

TomVeal · 03-10-2015, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mpejkrm

Haha, I never thought of it that way, but yes, you get compensation picks for unsigned picks in the top five rounds. But the pick is one later than the one you missed. So if you don't sign #28 you get #29 (barring other unsigned picks).

That's an exploit I never thought of. Good catch.

Would you postpone your pay checks till next year (without interest) and chortle, "Ha, ha, I'll be paid double in 2016!"?

frangipard · 03-10-2015, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gai1997

If I have the #28 pick in the draft (1st Round) and I don't sign the player, do I get two first rounders next year?

1 pick for the missed #28 one as compensation
1 pick as my regular pick due to my record

Do I get two or just one?

Also same question but for all rounds.

Could I potentially purposely not sign my first 5 picks (Rounds 1-5) and have 10 picks in the first 5 rounds the next season? Could I end up stockpiling around 20 picks years down the line? How far can this go?

Thanks guys!

In the game, or in real life?

IRL, I think you have to make a good-faith offer to the player. If you go around making lowball offers, or if you start drafting people that you know won't sign (e.g. drafting your grandmother) ... I'm pretty sure you'd be simultaneously looking at a union grievance, a pissed-off league office, and an angry fan base, to say nothing of the owner.

mpejkrm · 03-10-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TomVeal

Would you postpone your pay checks till next year (without interest) and chortle, "Ha, ha, I'll be paid double in 2016!"?

...what does that have to do with anything? I was responding to his comment about the draft compensation picks in OOTP 16...

Gai1997 · 03-10-2015, 11:17 AM

Good thing this is OOTP though! And I wouldn't draft my Grandma, it'd be too much trouble

TomVeal · 03-10-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mpejkrm

...what does that have to do with anything? I was responding to his comment about the draft compensation picks in OOTP 16...

Maybe I was too cryptic. Sorry. My point was that deliberately not signing draft picks doesn't get you more high level draft picks over a two-year period. It merely postpones half of your picks by one year without any offsetting benefit (at least, none that I can see). That is analogous to an interest-free salary deferral.

BIG17EASY · 03-10-2015, 11:58 AM

I could be wrong on this, but I believe IRL that compensation picks do not carry over to a third year if those players go unsigned.

Gai1997 · 03-10-2015, 12:09 PM

I'm only doing this to an excessively low-quality draft class in a league I'm in. The 28th pick would've netted me a 1.5 star at best, so I am hoping that the draft class gets fixed next year and it should.

coffee87 · 03-10-2015, 12:36 PM

Here are the rules regarding unsigned draftees. You could only do it for one year, then you would lose the compensatory picks if you don't sign the players.

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Teams that fail to sign a first or second round pick will be compensated by receiving a virtually identical pick (plus one) in the following year's draft (ex., a team that fails to sign the No. 5 pick in 2006 receives the No. 6 pick in 2007). A team that fails to sign a second round pick gets virtually the identical pick the following season regardless of the round (for example, if Boston fails to sign pick #62, it will receive pick #62A (~63) in the next year's draft, regardless of whether pick #62A falls in the supplemental round, the second round, or the third round). A team that fails to sign a third-round pick receives a sandwich pick between the third and fourth rounds. None of these picks may be forfeited. Additionally, these compensation picks cannot be parlayed into compensation picks in a later draft. If a player selected as compensation for failure to sign a previous year's draftee also goes unsigned, the team does not have a right to compensation for the unsigned player.

mpejkrm · 03-10-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by coffee87

Here are the rules regarding unsigned draftees. You could only do it for one year, then you would lose the compensatory picks if you don't sign the players.

Is that implemented in OOTP though?

MBarrett · 03-10-2015, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mpejkrm

Is that implemented in OOTP though?

Yes, confirmed in our league where this happened.

Marinersfan51 · 03-11-2015, 02:31 PM

It is only the first 3 rounds in OOTP IIRC.

jdono927 · 03-11-2015, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marinersfan51

It is only the first 3 rounds in OOTP IIRC.

I thought it was the first 5

Avindian · 03-11-2015, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jdono927

I thought it was the first 5

It's the first 5.

03-10-2015, 07:49 AM	#1
Gai1997 Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 370	Draft pick Compensation If I have the #28 pick in the draft (1st Round) and I don't sign the player, do I get two first rounders next year? 1 pick for the missed #28 one as compensation 1 pick as my regular pick due to my record Do I get two or just one? Also same question but for all rounds. Could I potentially purposely not sign my first 5 picks (Rounds 1-5) and have 10 picks in the first 5 rounds the next season? Could I end up stockpiling around 20 picks years down the line? How far can this go? Thanks guys! Last edited by Gai1997; 03-10-2015 at 07:51 AM.

03-10-2015, 08:17 AM	#2
mpejkrm All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 951	Haha, I never thought of it that way, but yes, you get compensation picks for unsigned picks in the top five rounds. But the pick is one later than the one you missed. So if you don't sign #28 you get #29 (barring other unsigned picks). That's an exploit I never thought of. Good catch.

03-10-2015, 11:17 AM	#6
Gai1997 Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 370	Good thing this is OOTP though! And I wouldn't draft my Grandma, it'd be too much trouble

03-10-2015, 11:58 AM	#8
BIG17EASY Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,291	I could be wrong on this, but I believe IRL that compensation picks do not carry over to a third year if those players go unsigned.

03-10-2015, 12:09 PM	#9
Gai1997 Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 370	I'm only doing this to an excessively low-quality draft class in a league I'm in. The 28th pick would've netted me a 1.5 star at best, so I am hoping that the draft class gets fixed next year and it should.

03-11-2015, 02:31 PM	#13
Marinersfan51 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 777	It is only the first 3 rounds in OOTP IIRC.