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Old 11-13-2014, 03:39 PM   #1
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AI In-Game

I have a long-running dynasty running (currently in year 2032 after starting in 2014).

I will only watch a game played (as GM) when I consider it an important game (usually an elimination-type game).

Recently, in a game #7 scenario I watched my team's manager make a move which was questionable at best....but seemed like the AI should easily NOT make this decision.

The game went into extra innings, and after several substitutions, my backup infielders were in the game.

I have a backup utility INF who is good at every infield position - but best at 2B, and a backup second baseman who is ONLY able to play 2B.

Sadly, my AI manager put my Utility INF at this best position of 2B but left my backup 2B at a totally unfamiliar posiiton of SS. This led to disaster as a ground ball hit to the SS ended the game on a 2 out error.

Why would the AI do this? Is there a measure to help this not happen that I am not aware of?

...Also, on an entirely different topic, but still relevant. In an elimination/game #7 type scenario....is there a way to adjust the game's settings to ensure that a manager has an extremely quick hook with a pitcher? Especially to avoid trouble, but also to get as many regular hitters to hit as possible?

Thank you to anyone who has any help / comments to offer.
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Old 11-13-2014, 04:12 PM   #2
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Sounds like the AI programming needs more work.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 11-14-2014, 08:01 AM   #3
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I wish I could help more, but my solution to the in-game AI is to make all of the decisions myself during every game. That way, I only have myself to blame.
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Old 11-14-2014, 01:30 PM   #4
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I wish I could help more, but my solution to the in-game AI is to make all of the decisions myself during every game. That way, I only have myself to blame.

Understood. But, for me, that is too great of an advantage bc that means you get to take advantage of each of the AI's mistakes that you would not otherwise make.

Any other suggestions out here on the original post?
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Old 11-14-2014, 02:29 PM   #5
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Why would the AI do this? Is there a measure to help this not happen that I am not aware of?
No. The game engine should optimize fielding any time there is a change, just as does when the AI sets a lineup/depth chart for a team. Markus contends that the engine does this, but it is certainly hard to see that.

The game engine is designed so that any player can play any position (even catcher). I think this is a matter of expediency. That may help to explain what we see, since the probability of a player who is badly assigned making an error is significantly less that would occur in real life (or at least I think so -- it's difficult to make a statistically valid analysis).

My solution is to interrupt the game and fix the fielding assignments as best I can, not only for my team but also for the other team. Not something that works for you considering how to play the game.

[/QUOTE]...Also, on an entirely different topic, but still relevant. In an elimination/game #7 type scenario....is there a way to adjust the game's settings to ensure that a manager has an extremely quick hook with a pitcher?[/QUOTE]

No, not when you talking about playoff situations. AFAIK, the AI is always going to handle playoff games that same way it handles regular games. So, again, you'd have to intervene manually.
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Old 11-14-2014, 03:08 PM   #6
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My solution is to interrupt the game and fix the fielding assignments as best I can, not only for my team but also for the other team. Not something that works for you considering how to play the game.

SteveP .... thank you very much for the time you took to answer my questions / comments.

I have one more now based on your above statement.

How do I go about stopping the game and manually making changes for my team as well as the opposing AI's team? Im not sure I am aware of how to do this. Do I have to have commish mode on? I agree with you on this....I just dont know what steps I have to take to make those changes in-game...
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Old 11-14-2014, 03:35 PM   #7
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No, not when you talking about playoff situations. AFAIK, the AI is always going to handle playoff games that same way it handles regular games. So, again, you'd have to intervene manually.
Can't we change the manager strategy settings prior to the game? I've never done this myself, but I do set them at the start of each season to (hopefully) take advantage of the style that I think best suits my team. It stands to reason that we should be able to adjust them for a specific game.
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:32 PM   #8
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Can't we change the manager strategy settings prior to the game?
Certainly.
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:38 PM   #9
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How do I go about stopping the game and manually making changes for my team as well as the opposing AI's team? Im not sure I am aware of how to do this. Do I have to have commish mode on? I agree with you on this....I just dont know what steps I have to take to make those changes in-game...
I always play in commissioner mode, and this is one of the reasons. Some people think this is "cheating", but frankly the game engine still needs some manual intervention from time to time -- otherwise you just end up posting complaints about the AI in the forum.

You pause the game, and go out to the options window. Put yourself in command of substitutions for whichever team. Make the changes. Put the AI back in command. Start the game running again. Sometimes it is too late to get the best result for a team, but at least you can do what you can do.
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