Community involvement time!

megamanmatt · 06-02-2014, 01:19 AM

Hey folks. I've decided to ask the community if they think I should move the Detroit Robins in my league to another city. I'm asking the community because I'm managing this team and don't want my own bias to influence it.

Team has existed for 62 years: No playoffs, no championships. 3 2nd place finishes, 3 3rd place finishes. Mostly 5th place and lower finishes. 4239-5347 record lifetime. Small market, minimal fan loyalty. Tolerant and Charitable owner.

Ask me anything else you need to decide.

Lafayette53 · 06-02-2014, 02:35 AM

What cities do you have open? Theoretically at least if you had good spread it'd be hard to justify a move even for a crap-sack team with terrible attendance.

You said they've been around 62 years.. how long is that relative to the rest of the league?

StLee · 06-02-2014, 07:08 AM

Don't move them, but give them a makeover, a la the Tampa Bucs going from creamsicle disco dancers to rust-colored throat slashers.

Detroit Robins? Pansies! Make them something sinister like the Flesh Eaters or Predators or Pterodactyls or Liches. Then start signing some bad mofo intimidators, Bob Gibson and Ty Cobb style, to change the losing culture.

madJ · 06-02-2014, 07:33 AM

Or just give them a capable GM.

Just kidding. Move them to a bigger market depending on what cities are still available. Having them in the same city with another team might doom them to a smaller market once again.

ukhotstove · 06-02-2014, 09:23 AM

Don't move them, just think how much enjoyment you'll get when they reach the play offs for the first time. I bet it wouldn't be as much if you moved the team and signed a load of high priced free agents to get that play off spot.

rpriske · 06-02-2014, 11:59 AM

Stick it out.

The Wolf · 06-02-2014, 12:12 PM

Is there an option for "kill it with fire"?

ThatSeventiesGuy · 06-02-2014, 12:20 PM

What year are you in? In 20 years, there probably won't be a Detroit anyway - they'll have bulldozed the place by then. So move 'em if you're past, say, 2035 or so. Maybe to the 'burbs, Oakland County or some such, or someplace not too far away, like Ann Arbor.

megamanmatt · 06-02-2014, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

Is there an option for "kill it with fire"?

Ugh... we're 6-16 to start 1965 so.... god I wish.

megamanmatt · 06-02-2014, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatSeventiesGuy

What year are you in? In 20 years, there probably won't be a Detroit anyway - they'll have bulldozed the place by then. So move 'em if you're past, say, 2035 or so. Maybe to the 'burbs, Oakland County or some such, or someplace not too far away, like Ann Arbor.

'65 right now. Started the league in 1903 and took over the team in 1963. Still about 10 years from FA and 7 or 8 from the institution of the DH, not that that would help my team and their 5.01 ERA much.

ThatSeventiesGuy · 06-02-2014, 12:45 PM

Ah, you're just starting to get to the declining years. Wait until at least the 80s, then. Unless you wanna move 'em to the 'burbs in, say, the 70s or so.

scott1964 · 06-02-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Hey folks. I've decided to ask the community if they think I should move the Detroit Robins in my league to another city. I'm asking the community because I'm managing this team and don't want my own bias to influence it.

Team has existed for 62 years: No playoffs, no championships. 3 2nd place finishes, 3 3rd place finishes. Mostly 5th place and lower finishes. 4239-5347 record lifetime. Small market, minimal fan loyalty. Tolerant and Charitable owner.

Ask me anything else you need to decide.

Move them to Nome Alaska and play snowball

ghostrobot · 06-02-2014, 08:54 PM

It's strange because I've played out a few different fictional leagues and it seems like certain cities are always at the bottom of the pack. Detroit ALWAYS being one of them. The other perennial losers are almost always from Pittsburgh, New York, and San Francisco. On the other hand, St Louis, Louisville, Philadelphia and Baltimore always seem to field a powerhouse.

megamanmatt · 06-02-2014, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostrobot

It's strange because I've played out a few different fictional leagues and it seems like certain cities are always at the bottom of the pack. Detroit ALWAYS being one of them. The other perennial losers are almost always from Pittsburgh, New York, and San Francisco. On the other hand, St Louis, Louisville, Philadelphia and Baltimore always seem to field a powerhouse.

Same although often different teams. Detroit usually is about average. Baltimore and Pittsburgh are almost always the worst teams in their league. Minneapolis teams seem to do a lot better than reality.

That said Pittsburgh is actually one of the better teams which defies convention. 17 World Series appearances and 5 wins. Detroit and Boston are the worst in this league.

Rockfan616 · 06-02-2014, 10:53 PM

So they are kind of like the fictional version of the Cubs then pretty much right?? At least it sounds like it, although more average than below average but still, they haven't won anything yet so in that sense they are like the Cubs....LOL j/k ;-P

gbwitheyes · 06-03-2014, 12:18 AM

Do you have teams that have been powerhouses in your league? It would be interesting to make a backup and have you take over one of those teams for a couple of decades. Even go back to the start and manage another.

Do they still will or are you the curse?

megamanmatt · 06-03-2014, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gbwitheyes

Do you have teams that have been powerhouses in your league? It would be interesting to make a backup and have you take over one of those teams for a couple of decades. Even go back to the start and manage another.

Do they still will or are you the curse?

Much like the real MLB the AL New York team is the powerhouse in this world. 26 trips to the World Series and 15 wins. All in 61 years or so. Not bad.

megamanmatt · 06-03-2014, 01:41 AM

Well heading into the draft on June 15th we're 26-30. I can honestly say I thought we'd be doing worse.

megamanmatt · 06-04-2014, 12:09 AM

Bored so I thought I'd share a few images with you.

1) The #1 ranked 1B in the Majors. Won the AL HR crown last year and currently leading this years batting title race, and in fact leading all of baseball in average.

2) Concussions strike again! This had to particularly suck for St. Louis since have had a rough decade and this guy was poised to be the top player of his generation. He led the majors in HRs last year with 51 and already had 20 before his career came to a sudden end.

3) Must be a bug.

megamanmatt · 06-04-2014, 12:40 AM

Spoke too soon. Extended the 3 game winning streak to 6 games and have moved into 2nd place. What a weird freakin year.

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06-02-2014, 07:08 AM	#3
StLee Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NC Posts: 4,971	Don't move them, but give them a makeover, a la the Tampa Bucs going from creamsicle disco dancers to rust-colored throat slashers. Detroit Robins? Pansies! Make them something sinister like the Flesh Eaters or Predators or Pterodactyls or Liches. Then start signing some bad mofo intimidators, Bob Gibson and Ty Cobb style, to change the losing culture. __________________ Fan of LSU sports (especially baseball and football), New Orleans Saints, New Orleans Pelicans, and Atlanta Braves (Dale Murphy for the HOF!). Current dynasties: Fallout 4's Commonwealth Baseball Organization Completed dynasty: Fallout: New Vegas' Mojave Baseball League Uniforms: My custom uniforms

06-02-2014, 09:23 AM	#5
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	Don't move them, just think how much enjoyment you'll get when they reach the play offs for the first time. I bet it wouldn't be as much if you moved the team and signed a load of high priced free agents to get that play off spot. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

06-02-2014, 11:59 AM	#6
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 26,279	Stick it out. __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````

06-02-2014, 12:20 PM	#8
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,426	What year are you in? In 20 years, there probably won't be a Detroit anyway - they'll have bulldozed the place by then. So move 'em if you're past, say, 2035 or so. Maybe to the 'burbs, Oakland County or some such, or someplace not too far away, like Ann Arbor. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1

06-02-2014, 01:19 AM	#1
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	Community involvement time! Hey folks. I've decided to ask the community if they think I should move the Detroit Robins in my league to another city. I'm asking the community because I'm managing this team and don't want my own bias to influence it. Team has existed for 62 years: No playoffs, no championships. 3 2nd place finishes, 3 3rd place finishes. Mostly 5th place and lower finishes. 4239-5347 record lifetime. Small market, minimal fan loyalty. Tolerant and Charitable owner. Ask me anything else you need to decide. __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.

06-02-2014, 02:35 AM	#2
Lafayette53 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 346	What cities do you have open? Theoretically at least if you had good spread it'd be hard to justify a move even for a crap-sack team with terrible attendance. You said they've been around 62 years.. how long is that relative to the rest of the league?

06-02-2014, 07:33 AM	#4
madJ Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 361	Or just give them a capable GM. Just kidding. Move them to a bigger market depending on what cities are still available. Having them in the same city with another team might doom them to a smaller market once again.

06-02-2014, 12:45 PM	#11
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,426	Ah, you're just starting to get to the declining years. Wait until at least the 80s, then. Unless you wanna move 'em to the 'burbs in, say, the 70s or so. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1

06-02-2014, 08:54 PM	#13
ghostrobot Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 197	It's strange because I've played out a few different fictional leagues and it seems like certain cities are always at the bottom of the pack. Detroit ALWAYS being one of them. The other perennial losers are almost always from Pittsburgh, New York, and San Francisco. On the other hand, St Louis, Louisville, Philadelphia and Baltimore always seem to field a powerhouse.

06-02-2014, 10:53 PM	#15
Rockfan616 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 275	So they are kind of like the fictional version of the Cubs then pretty much right?? At least it sounds like it, although more average than below average but still, they haven't won anything yet so in that sense they are like the Cubs....LOL j/k ;-P

06-03-2014, 12:18 AM	#16
gbwitheyes Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 271	Do you have teams that have been powerhouses in your league? It would be interesting to make a backup and have you take over one of those teams for a couple of decades. Even go back to the start and manage another. Do they still will or are you the curse?

06-03-2014, 01:41 AM	#18
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	Well heading into the draft on June 15th we're 26-30. I can honestly say I thought we'd be doing worse. __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.

06-04-2014, 12:09 AM	#19
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	Bored so I thought I'd share a few images with you. 1) The #1 ranked 1B in the Majors. Won the AL HR crown last year and currently leading this years batting title race, and in fact leading all of baseball in average. 2) Concussions strike again! This had to particularly suck for St. Louis since have had a rough decade and this guy was poised to be the top player of his generation. He led the majors in HRs last year with 51 and already had 20 before his career came to a sudden end. 3) Must be a bug. Attached Images __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.

06-04-2014, 12:40 AM	#20
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	Spoke too soon. Extended the 3 game winning streak to 6 games and have moved into 2nd place. What a weird freakin year. __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.