Too many players on Free Agent List

JPL86 · 05-31-2014, 11:51 AM

I am playing a Fictional League with 24 teams, and 4 minor leagues (AAA, AA, A, R). I have roster limits set for the 3 minor league teams, and unlimited for the rookie league.

My Draft settings are currently set at:
15 rounds, create players for 16.
They were set at 20 rounds, create players for 21.
This using the logic of 5 x # of minor leagues. I tried reducing this the last 2 years to 15 rounds due to the growing free agent list, but it continues to grow each year.

My problem is that each year (currently in my 6th season), the Free Agent list grows and now is at 800+ players (mostly MR's).

Any suggestions? I know I can delete or retire some, but I would like a front end solution.

megamanmatt · 05-31-2014, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JPL86

I am playing a Fictional League with 24 teams, and 4 minor leagues (AAA, AA, A, R). I have roster limits set for the 3 minor league teams, and unlimited for the rookie league.

My Draft settings are currently set at:
15 rounds, create players for 16.
They were set at 20 rounds, create players for 21.
This using the logic of 5 x # of minor leagues. I tried reducing this the last 2 years to 15 rounds due to the growing free agent list, but it continues to grow each year.

My problem is that each year (currently in my 6th season), the Free Agent list grows and now is at 800+ players (mostly MR's).

Any suggestions? I know I can delete or retire some, but I would like a front end solution.

Well that doesn't seem like too many players too me so I'm not sure of your metrics. Secondly you're not going to see a reduction in two years. Third this is pretty much always going to be an issue for you. That's because the game generates baseball players, not people. People can move on to other profession and most players do. Baseball players however play baseball, can only play baseball, and will do nothing but play baseball so they are all available because they don't have any better occupation options or families they have to support. In reality players retire because they have better occupation prospects than 'career minor leaguer' and families to support.

JPL86 · 05-31-2014, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Well that doesn't seem like too many players too me so I'm not sure of your metrics. Secondly you're not going to see a reduction in two years. Third this is pretty much always going to be an issue for you. That's because the game generates baseball players, not people. People can move on to other profession and most players do. Baseball players however play baseball, can only play baseball, and will do nothing but play baseball so they are all available because they don't have any better occupation options or families they have to support. In reality players retire because they have better occupation prospects than 'career minor leaguer' and families to support.

OK, that explains it very well, but doesn't offer a solution. I believe there is a solution, or something I can do to at least help, but do not know what it is.

Is there anything I can do to help reduce the Free Agents? Or at least stop the list from growing every year?

mgom27 · 05-31-2014, 12:45 PM

Turn on Reserve Clause.

MrWideFrame · 05-31-2014, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JPL86

OK, that explains it very well, but doesn't offer a solution. I believe there is a solution, or something I can do to at least help, but do not know what it is.

Is there anything I can do to help reduce the Free Agents? Or at least stop the list from growing every year?

You can manually retire the scrubs and over the hill players.

JPL86 · 05-31-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mgom27

Turn on Reserve Clause.

What exactly will that do in a current era league?

JPL86 · 05-31-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWideFrame

You can manually retire the scrubs and over the hill players.

Did that with 1/2 star players and >40 year olds. However that only took care of a small fraction of players. Most of these player ar 1 star to 2 star players ranging in age from 20 - 35.

MUFC1878 · 05-31-2014, 01:12 PM

In the Rules tab, you could check "disable automatic creation of free agents".

JPL86 · 05-31-2014, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MUFC1878

In the Rules tab, you could check "disable automatic creation of free agents".

Are you saying that the game creates Free Agents out of thin air (that weren't already in the league)???

MUFC1878 · 05-31-2014, 01:20 PM

It generates free agents right after every season.

JPL86 · 05-31-2014, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MUFC1878

It generates free agents right after every season.

Why would it do that? Shouldn't Free Agents only come from existing players that do not sign back with their current team? That's how real life works.

Anyway... I looked on the Rules screen and do not see that option.

MUFC1878 · 05-31-2014, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JPL86

Why would it do that? Shouldn't Free Agents only come from existing players that do not sign back with their current team? That's how real life works.

Because the game seems to err on the side of caution, so it generates more free agents than it needs to. Depending on your settings, these could be players from indy or international league.

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Anyway... I looked on the Rules screen and do not see that option.

League settings > Rules. I believe is on the right side, by the draft options. Don't have the game open right now.

JPL86 · 05-31-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MUFC1878

League settings > Rules. I believe is on the right side, by the draft options. Don't have the game open right now.

Just looked again. Nothing there. Could it be that it would only appear in the off-season?

JPL86 · 05-31-2014, 02:20 PM

BTW... Thanks for all the help.

megamanmatt · 05-31-2014, 02:29 PM

I'm still having trouble with "too many free agents". Sorry, might just be me, but the FA pool is generally about quality vs quantity. After all the MLB real FA pool is thousands upon thousands of players deep. More if you want to get into the most basic definition which pushes it up to every living male over the age of 18. 1 - 2 star players are terrible players. I would expect them to be there. Now a 2 1/2 - 3 star guy in the FA pool for longer than half a season would give me pause, but as long as you league is generating a correct number of 3 - 5 star players and there is are a decent number of them reaching FA I'd say you're alright.

megamanmatt · 05-31-2014, 02:31 PM

Check player settings in the league setup though. You might have international FAs or Indy FA's on.

SirMichaelJordan · 05-31-2014, 02:31 PM

I know some players retire after a few years of sitting in the FA list maybe the frequency should be upped?

Have you thought about creating Indy leagues to absorb some of the FA's?

megamanmatt · 05-31-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

I know some players retire after a few years of sitting in the FA list maybe the frequency should be upped?

I barked up that tree for a couple versions. Got no where.

MUFC1878 · 05-31-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JPL86

Just looked again. Nothing there. Could it be that it would only appear in the off-season?

It seems to only appear when you disable the amateur draft. Hadn't noticed that. But if you disable the draft, check the option, then enable the draft again it should work. After disabling/enabling the draft the options remains checked. Shouldn't be a problem, but back up your league anyways before you try.

megamanmatt · 05-31-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MUFC1878

It seems to only appear when you disable the amateur draft. Hadn't noticed that. But if you disable the draft, check the option, then enable the draft again it should work. After disabling/enabling the draft the options remains checked. Shouldn't be a problem, but back up your league anyways before you try.

It's an either/or affair. Either you have an Amateur Draft and players are created or you don't have an Amateur Draft and have the option to disable the generation of them. Not both.

05-31-2014, 11:51 AM	#1
JPL86 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 170	Too many players on Free Agent List I am playing a Fictional League with 24 teams, and 4 minor leagues (AAA, AA, A, R). I have roster limits set for the 3 minor league teams, and unlimited for the rookie league. My Draft settings are currently set at: 15 rounds, create players for 16. They were set at 20 rounds, create players for 21. This using the logic of 5 x # of minor leagues. I tried reducing this the last 2 years to 15 rounds due to the growing free agent list, but it continues to grow each year. My problem is that each year (currently in my 6th season), the Free Agent list grows and now is at 800+ players (mostly MR's). Any suggestions? I know I can delete or retire some, but I would like a front end solution.

05-31-2014, 12:45 PM	#4
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,530	Turn on Reserve Clause. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

05-31-2014, 02:29 PM	#15
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	I'm still having trouble with "too many free agents". Sorry, might just be me, but the FA pool is generally about quality vs quantity. After all the MLB real FA pool is thousands upon thousands of players deep. More if you want to get into the most basic definition which pushes it up to every living male over the age of 18. 1 - 2 star players are terrible players. I would expect them to be there. Now a 2 1/2 - 3 star guy in the FA pool for longer than half a season would give me pause, but as long as you league is generating a correct number of 3 - 5 star players and there is are a decent number of them reaching FA I'd say you're alright. __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.

05-31-2014, 02:31 PM	#16
megamanmatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 2,416	Check player settings in the league setup though. You might have international FAs or Indy FA's on. __________________ "The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles, where there are no lakes; The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil; the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music; The Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice." Note to self: Princess Kenny was really off-putting.

05-31-2014, 01:12 PM	#8
MUFC1878 All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Venezuela Posts: 621	In the Rules tab, you could check "disable automatic creation of free agents".

05-31-2014, 01:20 PM	#10
MUFC1878 All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Venezuela Posts: 621	It generates free agents right after every season.

05-31-2014, 02:20 PM	#14
JPL86 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 170	BTW... Thanks for all the help.

05-31-2014, 02:31 PM	#17
SirMichaelJordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,718	I know some players retire after a few years of sitting in the FA list maybe the frequency should be upped? Have you thought about creating Indy leagues to absorb some of the FA's?