AI Constantly Releasing Star Players Coming off the DL

ChiefWahoo · 05-28-2014, 08:01 PM

Teams are releasing superstars once their time on the DL ends. A two-time MVP shouldn't get cut eight games into the season. It's getting out of hand. These guys are then immediately scooped up on $850,000 one year deals by other teams, even though they were previously hitting .330 and earning $15,000,000. I can only scratch my head....?????

pstrickert · 05-28-2014, 09:05 PM

Do you have a roster limit at the lowest level of your minor leagues? This is often the culprit. Set it at No Limit for best results. If I understand it correctly, this will give the AI some flexibility with roster moves.

RchW · 05-28-2014, 09:19 PM

How many superstars were released? Was it 15 or 60 day DL? Did the various AI teams doing this have full 40 man rosters at the time the players were released? Did the superstars take major hits to ratings due to the injuries?

What type of league?

It's likely the roster limits but a combination of other factors can play into this.

ChiefWahoo · 05-28-2014, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

Do you have a roster limit at the lowest level of your minor leagues? This is often the culprit. Set it at No Limit for best results. If I understand it correctly, this will give the AI some flexibility with roster moves.

Yes, I do have roster limits at rookie ball. Let me adjust those and see what happens as a result. Thanks!

Mister_G · 05-29-2014, 02:02 AM

Interesting. I have roster limits at every level (35 at rookie ball) and have never seen anything like that. In past versions I saw teams release star prospects in the middle of the season, but never established guys.

BIG17EASY · 05-29-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister_G

Interesting. I have roster limits at every level (35 at rookie ball) and have never seen anything like that. In past versions I saw teams release star prospects in the middle of the season, but never established guys.

Same here. I've been playing the MLB quickstart with roster limits in OOTP13, 14 and now 15, and I've never seen the situation the OP describes.

RchW · 05-29-2014, 10:33 AM

I don't play the MLB quickstart and have never seen it. I don't have roster limits on A level minors. I'd still like to know if this is more than one player. It would certainly help determine if this is a blip or a problem.

moonlightmerc · 05-29-2014, 10:41 AM

What is your DFA set to? When they come off of the DL they go into the DFA. Maybe he just sat on your DFA list too long. Even though I thought you would get a warning when DFA player time elapses.

SirMichaelJordan · 05-29-2014, 12:36 PM

Nevermind. Already mentioned.

The Wolf · 05-29-2014, 12:47 PM

If you want the AI to perform as well as it can at player management, then take the roster limits off of all your minor league teams.

ChiefWahoo · 05-29-2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

I don't play the MLB quickstart and have never seen it. I don't have roster limits on A level minors. I'd still like to know if this is more than one player. It would certainly help determine if this is a blip or a problem.

No, this is actually a repetitive issue in my game. I should add it's a fictional game with real MLB franchises and minor leagues, but all players and history are fictional.

RchW · 05-29-2014, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefWahoo

No, this is actually a repetitive issue in my game. I should add it's a fictional game with real MLB franchises and minor leagues, but all players and history are fictional.

So how many players?

I play the same style and this maybe happened back in v2007 or thereabouts. I don't think it was more than 1-2 players ever.

Markus Heinsohn · 05-30-2014, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefWahoo

Teams are releasing superstars once their time on the DL ends. A two-time MVP shouldn't get cut eight games into the season. It's getting out of hand. These guys are then immediately scooped up on $850,000 one year deals by other teams, even though they were previously hitting .330 and earning $15,000,000. I can only scratch my head....?????

Interesting. Never seen anything like it. Please report this in the bug report thread over at the tech support forum and upload your league files (follow the instructions of the first post in that thread)

Thanks!

ChiefWahoo · 06-01-2014, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Interesting. Never seen anything like it. Please report this in the bug report thread over at the tech support forum and upload your league files (follow the instructions of the first post in that thread)

Thanks!

Thanks Markus. I was actually able to solve this on my own, I think, by removing roster limits on the rookie leagues. Hopefully this works long-term.

PSUColonel · 06-01-2014, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefWahoo

Thanks Markus. I was actually able to solve this on my own, I think, by removing roster limits on the rookie leagues. Hopefully this works long-term.

I have been playing with roster limits for years, and it shouldn't make a difference

The Wolf · 06-01-2014, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I have been playing with roster limits for years, and it shouldn't make a difference

It makes a huge difference.

Lukas Berger · 06-01-2014, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

It makes a huge difference.

Sure does.

ChiefWahoo · 06-02-2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

It makes a huge difference.

Do you play with roster limits on any minor leagues? Or just not on rookie ball?

megamanmatt · 06-03-2014, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefWahoo

Do you play with roster limits on any minor leagues? Or just not on rookie ball?

Don't use them. At all. The AI does not adapt to them very well.

Orcin · 06-03-2014, 02:21 PM

I use roster limits in every league in my organization, and I don't have any of these issues. I set the limit in Rookie to 40 - all of the rest are set to 30.

05-28-2014, 08:01 PM	#1
ChiefWahoo Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 129	AI Constantly Releasing Star Players Coming off the DL Teams are releasing superstars once their time on the DL ends. A two-time MVP shouldn't get cut eight games into the season. It's getting out of hand. These guys are then immediately scooped up on $850,000 one year deals by other teams, even though they were previously hitting .330 and earning $15,000,000. I can only scratch my head....????? Last edited by ChiefWahoo; 05-28-2014 at 08:13 PM.

05-28-2014, 09:19 PM	#3
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	How many superstars were released? Was it 15 or 60 day DL? Did the various AI teams doing this have full 40 man rosters at the time the players were released? Did the superstars take major hits to ratings due to the injuries? What type of league? It's likely the roster limits but a combination of other factors can play into this. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

05-29-2014, 02:02 AM	#5
Mister_G All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 576	Interesting. I have roster limits at every level (35 at rookie ball) and have never seen anything like that. In past versions I saw teams release star prospects in the middle of the season, but never established guys. __________________ A man doesn't make mistakes, mistakes make the man @MisterG90

05-29-2014, 10:33 AM	#7
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	I don't play the MLB quickstart and have never seen it. I don't have roster limits on A level minors. I'd still like to know if this is more than one player. It would certainly help determine if this is a blip or a problem. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

05-29-2014, 12:36 PM	#9
SirMichaelJordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,716	Nevermind. Already mentioned. Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 05-29-2014 at 12:38 PM.

05-28-2014, 09:05 PM	#2
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,458	Do you have a roster limit at the lowest level of your minor leagues? This is often the culprit. Set it at No Limit for best results. If I understand it correctly, this will give the AI some flexibility with roster moves.

05-29-2014, 10:41 AM	#8
moonlightmerc Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Long Island Posts: 108	What is your DFA set to? When they come off of the DL they go into the DFA. Maybe he just sat on your DFA list too long. Even though I thought you would get a warning when DFA player time elapses.

06-03-2014, 02:21 PM	#20
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,850	I use roster limits in every league in my organization, and I don't have any of these issues. I set the limit in Rookie to 40 - all of the rest are set to 30.