[B]Why are all of my rookie pitchers 20/20?[/B]

[Leefoo]

I thought I had done a bad job of drafting, but when I check other orgs, almost ALL of their rookie pitchers are 20/20. I found a few with potentials from 23 to 40 (tops), but that was it.

The St Louis Cards and Atlanta Braves, for example, have a combined 8 pitchers in their top 10, and the highest potential is a 20/25!!!

When I look at the drafts, there almost never any good pitchers to draft (amateur and international). For grins, I created a pitcher who became a 20/75 prospect. Within one year, he was 20/39!

For my Pirates, Jamison Taillon and Gerritt Cole started out fairly well...JT was a 20/67 and Cole a 21/73. Now JT is a 20/20 and Cole a 23/53 who has been hurt most of these two years.

I have always done historical leagues and this is my first current league. I am just completing my 3rd year. I ALWAYS had good pitchers to draft in my historical drafts.

My batters seem to be just fine, tho.

Something screwy HAS to be going on. Can anyone help?
Thx

Lee Foo

[TGH-Adfabre]

1) Have their Base Ratings changed or just the OVR?
2) Scouting on? Accuracy?
3) AI Eval settings?

First 3 questions off the top of my head.

[Leefoo]

Originally Posted by TGH-Adfabre

1) Have their Base Ratings changed or just the OVR?
2) Scouting on? Accuracy?
3) AI Eval settings?

First 3 questions off the top of my head.

Thanks for your reply.

1) I can only verify Pirate Ratings....their Potential ratings went down, down. They were the only minor league pitchers I had when I 'inherited' the team out of the box. I have no idea what happened with the other teams. However, the fact that almost all the amateur pitchers are rated 20/20 in the draft is kinda scary.

2) Scouting Options box is checked and Accuracy is Normal. Also, remember that my BATTERS are rated normally. I have several batters that are (for ex), 20/74, 33/65, etc, etc. ALL of my pitchers are 20/20. Makes no sense. And then, when I look across the majors, the four teams I checked are all in the 'same boat'.

3) Are you saying I should (or shouldn't) check the "Overall rating based on AI Eval" box, because it wasn't checked?

Almost all of my setup options are 'out of the box'. I eliminated the DH and set the ratings for 1-100 (I hate 'stars). Other than that, I didn't change much.

Also, like I said, I've NEVER had an issue with this in my historical setups.

[Leefoo]

A little more info...I have gone into the Scouting Tab of some of the pitchers and they are showing as actually having some potential within that tab.

For instance, Zach Von Rosenberg shows as a 20/20 but within that Scouting Tab, it gives him a potential of 80.

How can I get that to show on the roster screen? It shows all of the batters' potentials.

[TGH-Adfabre]

That is weird.

3) Are you saying I should (or shouldn't) check the "Overall rating based on AI Eval" box, because it wasn't checked?

Neither, I was wondering if you had it checked and if so what were the settings. Using it is just personal preference.

When you "Show All Players" are the top players absurdly pitching heavy?
By default League Evolution is on, did you turn it off?
If not, has the offense or defense in your league had a major change? Did you receive any "Changing the mound height" type of messages?
Are "Prospects" or minor leaguers the only players effected? Are established veterans seemingly immune?
The Pirate players who have had a downgrade in their POT. In their scouting reports does it show a downgrade in their Stuff/Move/Control POT?

My first recommendation is to turn scouting off, sim 1 day and recheck the ratings. Maybe take a few screen shots or create another .lg folder is saved games if you are worried about screwing around with global settings.
My second is to look at League Evolution. There are a bunch of check boxes that allow you to customize random league changes.

[TGH-Adfabre]

Originally Posted by Leefoo

A little more info...I have gone into the Scouting Tab of some of the pitchers and they are showing as actually having some potential within that tab.

For instance, Zach Von Rosenberg shows as a 20/20 but within that Scouting Tab, it gives him a potential of 80.

How can I get that to show on the roster screen? It shows all of the batters' potentials.

I have never seen that, I am totally lost about why it will not show in both places. Is it showing in the player profile?

[Leefoo]

Like I said...i got some weird chit going on.

I think I might bag this and start with other seasons.

I'm not too fond of having those 6,000 minor leaguers and 5,989 are worthless 20/20s.

Btw, my Pirates are the #1 rated organization. Of my top 10 players, only one is a SP, AND i cheated with him...he is one of my creations.

Thx

Foo

[Leefoo]

Originally Posted by TGH-Adfabre

That is weird.


Neither, I was wondering if you had it checked and if so what were the settings. Using it is just personal preference.

When you "Show All Players" are the top players absurdly pitching heavy?
By default League Evolution is on, did you turn it off?
If not, has the offense or defense in your league had a major change? Did you receive any "Changing the mound height" type of messages?
Are "Prospects" or minor leaguers the only players effected? Are established veterans seemingly immune?
The Pirate players who have had a downgrade in their POT. In their scouting reports does it show a downgrade in their Stuff/Move/Control POT?

My first recommendation is to turn scouting off, sim 1 day and recheck the ratings. Maybe take a few screen shots or create another .lg folder is saved games if you are worried about screwing around with global settings.
My second is to look at League Evolution. There are a bunch of check boxes that allow you to customize random league changes.

I changed very little from the out of the box ratings. It all seems to be pitcher related. I created 6 pitchers...all but one is down to below 20/50. And they all started out as, at least 20/70s even though half of them were supposed to be at least 75% formed (and a couple 100% formed). I created a SS at 75% and he was a 64/76 or something like that. Why wasn't the pitcher the same?

In playing OOTP, it has been my experience that any pitcher that starts with a 20/-- is usually doomed to minor league hell.

In my last draft (year 3) there were quite a few worthwhile batters to draft, but the best available pitcher was a 20/62!

Like I've said previously....none of my historical leagues have had any of these problems. It's pnly when I decided to try it from the current season.

[TGH-Adfabre]

In my last draft (year 3) there were quite a few worthwhile batters to draft, but the best available pitcher was a 20/62!

To me this is minor and will correct over time. I understand that in the context of the other problems you are having you may think I am nuts. I have seen some seemingly horrid draft classes that now seem, appropriate because real drafts do not always produce hall of famers or the ones that are top tier ML talent did not seem that good on draft day.