Question about recalc

[spacer99]

Quick question...I want to have a historical sim where players are drafted to different teams. I want the players to perform somewhat close to their real stats that year. I am using neutralized stats for the park effects. Should I do 1 or 3 year recalc? Should I double weight no matter which one I choose?

I'm not looking for identical stats, just if Walter Johnson has 300 k's in a year, I don't want him to get 125.

Thanks and I can not wait for version 15!

[David Watts]

I would recommend using 3 year recalc. Mainly due to the fact that you have the players going to different teams. Just my opinion, but I think 1 year recalc works best when using real transactions and players retire and miss seasons according to history. 3 year recalc will give you a much better flow from the end of one season on into the start of the next. I think you always have to keep in mind that the AI has no idea recalc is going to take place.

Remember also, if you want the game to run strictly on recalc you need to turn player development off.

This is my advice and just my opinion, so please take it as only that. OOTP is an incredible game and the historical replay aspect of the game has improved immensely through the years. But, keep in mind it is a career sim and for that reason, it may not always produce the most accurate individual season stats. If you are willing to be patient and look at players from a career standpoint, I think you will be very pleased by the results OOTP produces.

Oh and if you really want to have a blast. Do the same type of league you're planning, but turn recalc off and leave development on. Dial down talent change randomness a little. The "whatif" aspect of playing this way is a blast.

[spacer99]

Thanks a ton for your advice. Does the 3 year recalc take the previous, current, and next year or is it current and two years after?

[Spritze]

Originally Posted by spacer99

Does the 3 year recalc take the previous, current, and next year?

Yes, unless the player is in year 1 or 2, then it takes the needed subsequent years to get to 3.

[BradC]

Someone emailed me recently with a question, and it seemed similar to what's being discussed in this thread. Am I correct in thinking that recalc is the cause of him seeing ratings change from one year to the next in an historical replay while they don't change like that if you play from 2013 forward?

And if so, what's his best option for keeping the ratings from changing like that?

He asked me:

I recently started a historic season (started with 1961 for no apparent reason). So I have to admit I've done some statistical manipulation and used the Ratings Editor to bump up the ratings of some players. My question is...I've noticed the ratings change after each season. Yet when I have played just a regular game starting with the 2013 season and I adjust the ratings.....they stay the same from year to year. So how do I get it to stay the same each year when I'm playing in 1961, 62, 63 etc? Do you think there's an option I've chosen (or not chosen) that causes the ratings to vary year to year as opposed to staying the same?

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by BradC

Someone emailed me recently with a question, and it seemed similar to what's being discussed in this thread. Am I correct in thinking that recalc is the cause of him seeing ratings change from one year to the next in an historical replay while they don't change like that if you play from 2013 forward?

And if so, what's his best option for keeping the ratings from changing like that?

He asked me:

Correct assumption.

Tell him to disable recalc and then rating changes will be controlled by the in game engine on a normal real life basis.

[thehef]

Originally Posted by David Watts

I would recommend using 3 year recalc. Mainly due to the fact that you have the players going to different teams. Just my opinion, but I think 1 year recalc works best when using real transactions and players retire and miss seasons according to history. 3 year recalc will give you a much better flow from the end of one season on into the start of the next. I think you always have to keep in mind that the AI has no idea recalc is going to take place.

Remember also, if you want the game to run strictly on recalc you need to turn player development off.

This is my advice and just my opinion, so please take it as only that. OOTP is an incredible game and the historical replay aspect of the game has improved immensely through the years. But, keep in mind it is a career sim and for that reason, it may not always produce the most accurate individual season stats. If you are willing to be patient and look at players from a career standpoint, I think you will be very pleased by the results OOTP produces.

Oh and if you really want to have a blast. Do the same type of league you're planning, but turn recalc off and leave development on. Dial down talent change randomness a little. The "whatif" aspect of playing this way is a blast.

This is a great answer. Regarding the 3-year recalc, I would add (although this might be obvious) that this has the effect of smoothing over a year in which a player might've had an off-year due to, say, injuries (or drugs or apathy or whatever). For some reason I always think of Bills Buckner and Russell on the 1975 Dodgers. So, in this example, if you are in 1975 then Buckner's and Russell's poor years (in reality) will be somewhat mitigated (in OOTP's ratings) by the fact that they had decent 1974 and 1976 seasons. If you are in 1974 or 1976, though, their ratings will be somewhat negatively affected due to their poor, injury-plaged 1975 seasons.

(Anyone, if I have misrepresented above how the 3-yr recalc works, please set me straight. Thanks)

Of no apparent relevance to this thread, since the OP is not using real transactions, is this:

Originally Posted by David Watts

...1 year recalc works best when using real transactions and players retire and miss seasons according to history....

It is not possible to play 1) using real transactions, 2) choosing options to have players NOT retire according to history and NOT miss seasons according to history, and 3) getting the intended transactional results. This is due to a change (starting with the OOTP version 13 real transactions file) described in more detail here: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...e-problem.html. Hopefully this will be addressed in version 15.