To all of you who think overall ratings matter

[FunkyBike1]

Take a guess at this guy's overall rating. Modern MLB settings, overall based on ratings only.

Edit: I'll also put his 2017 game log here as the games happen.

• 6.1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 5 K, 1 BB
• 7.0 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 7 K, 2 BB
• 7.0 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 4 K, 0 BB

2 of the 3 earned runs so far have been solo homers. The last was on first base when Yue was taken out.

[arescan]

Between 75 and 80 on an 80 scale.

[endgame]

I'm guessing that Stamina is rated on a 20-80 as well? Given that, as a SP, his overall should be diminished, even though he did start 35 games and pitched an amazing # of innings with that. If I'm right on that count, I'd wager he's at about 65.

[Abyss]

25 or 30 as starter. He's probably an 80 reliever.

[endgame]

Of course I'm going to edit my post when we get the answer to appear as if I were right.

[le receveur]

"To all of you who think overall ratings matter"


why would anyone think ratings don't matter?

[yawgmoth]

Originally Posted by le receveur

"To all of you who think overall ratings matter"


why would anyone think ratings don't matter?

stats only

[rj58]

Originally Posted by le receveur

"To all of you who think overall ratings matter"


why would anyone think ratings don't matter?

I think the point is the 'overall rating' mattering.. not that ratings don't matter at all (which in agreement with you, they obviously DO matter).

I think the original post is merely pointing out to be careful if you are just glancing at overall rating. It can be misleading (I actually never look at it.. I wan't to make informed decisions based on the tradeoffs between different specific ratings areas).

[rj58]

Originally Posted by yawgmoth

stats only

Agreed.. in situations where a significant statistical set has been developed, I think that is the best way to judge.

40 at-bats (batter) or 10 IP (pitcher) will not tell you.. but 200 at-bats or 50 IP is a really good start at a good statistical sample set, and anything above that just improves the information on player performance.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by yawgmoth

stats only

i play stat only. Overall rating still mean something, i just don't look at it or use it, but i'm sure AI includes it in it's own assessment of players.

[le receveur]

also is this a new league, that a 32 year old only has one year of stats?

[Tyler87898]

Originally Posted by Abyss

25 or 30 as starter. He's probably an 80 reliever.

Definitely think it's something like this. Pitchers with really low stamina but would be a SP otherwise (has 3+ pitches) are rated lowly when set as a SP, but once you set him to MR or CL, the overall ratings jump (well really that pertains to all pitchers).

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by le receveur

also is this a new league, that a 32 year old only has one year of stats?

one more question, what is the league average BABIP? this seems fairly low, so would affect rating.

[Snarf054]

What I don't understand is how he has an 82/80 control rating? Does he get some sort of bonus due to a magical ring or something?

He's 70/69 on his curveball as well. How do you get a higher actual rating than your maximum potential?

[Papa3]

Originally Posted by Snarf054

What I don't understand is how he has an 82/80 control rating? Does he get some sort of bonus due to a magical ring or something?

He's 70/69 on his curveball as well. How do you get a higher actual rating than your maximum potential?

Players can have ratings above the max. In "Global Setup" under the Rating Scales section, there is an option to "Show Ratings > Max". It's off by default. Also, in the editor you can see ratings go up to 250, but I believe anything over 200 falls in the > Max category and won't be seen unless this option selected.

Right below that is another option for "Show Potential < Actual" which is why the curveball potential is lower than the actual. This one is also off by default.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by Snarf054

What I don't understand is how he has an 82/80 control rating? Does he get some sort of bonus due to a magical ring or something?

He's 70/69 on his curveball as well. How do you get a higher actual rating than your maximum potential?

Potential is more a long term view. him being 32, probably some regression expected//

[Fyrestorm3]

I'm sure the point of this is that his Overall rating is far lower than his statistical output says it should be. But, as has been pointed out already, there's an obvious reason for it: 20 stamina (assuming it's on a 20-80 scale) is not starter material. The game is always going to rank him subpar overall simply because his stamina is not high enough. That doesn't mean that overall ratings don't matter; that's simply the game functioning exactly as it should.

I have a guy on my team rated as 1-star overall as a SP, simply because he only has two viable pitches. He's rapidly becoming my ace. But I don't get all worked up over the fact that he's not rated "high enough," because there's an obvious explanation - the game can't see him as a viable starter. Set your guy's position to a reliever, and watch his overall rating skyrocket. It makes perfect sense to me.

[le receveur]

some of the ratings are below 20, so i think think is out of 100, or can you go below 20 if you are really bad?

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by le receveur

some of the ratings are below 20, so i think think is out of 100, or can you go below 20 if you are really bad?

You're right; I missed that. So maybe it's 1-100, then. Either way, the point stands: 20 Stamina is not SP material in OOTP's mind.

I also find it odd that his Suggested Role is either not displayed or whited out in the screenshot. I can 100% guarantee that the game suggests him to be "Bullpen," if not "Strictly Bullpen."

[Painmantle]

obviously this guys is rated on the 1-100 scale (Notice the 16 rating) Something else that is a dead giveaway, No way does this guy average almost 6ip per outing if his stamina is 20 on a 20-80 scale. But either way, I pay absolutely no attention to overall ratings for the most part. They (Overall ratings) are nothing more than a sorting tool for me.