The Quest for .400

JMDurron · 12-28-2013, 11:25 PM

So, on June 6th, 2020 (Draft Day in MLB), after 55 out of 162 games, I have a player batting .416. I am reasonably confident that this quest will end in slumping and tears, but I'm assuming that others here may have had some success, or even particularly spectacular letdowns in the quest for such an average.

So, for those of you who have been playing mature leagues (I use that caveat since I believe people get outlandish statistical results early in the lifespan of many leagues, both historical and fictional), how often do you see the .400 threshold broken? Have any of your players done it? Looking at MLB-sized fictional leagues here, or MLB Quickstarts for the dataset, since I suspect smaller leagues or more mismatched talent levels might make it too easy for it to be a fair comparison.

Mr. Baseball · 12-28-2013, 11:37 PM

Bret Hawkins is the only player in my online league history that has done it. He almost did it a second time last season. He batted .413 in 1988 (two years ago). He's probably the best player I've ever seen in any league.

Player Page: Player Report for #16 Bret 'Hawk' Hawkins

The Game · 12-28-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JMDurron

So, on June 6th, 2020 (Draft Day in MLB), after 55 out of 162 games, I have a player batting .416. I am reasonably confident that this quest will end in slumping and tears, but I'm assuming that others here may have had some success, or even particularly spectacular letdowns in the quest for such an average.

So, for those of you who have been playing mature leagues (I use that caveat since I believe people get outlandish statistical results early in the lifespan of many leagues, both historical and fictional), how often do you see the .400 threshold broken? Have any of your players done it? Looking at MLB-sized fictional leagues here, or MLB Quickstarts for the dataset, since I suspect smaller leagues or more mismatched talent levels might make it too easy for it to be a fair comparison.

I have never seen .400 excepot for my EBL vs MLB league and 2 historical leagues. Highest any non custom player hit was .372 and that was part of my EBL vs MLB but he played for a CBF team.

Snarf054 · 12-28-2013, 11:46 PM

I had a player on my team bat .412 for the season. He then proceeded to bat .125 for the playoffs and also failed to win the Offensive MVP award losing to a guy who batted in the .360's.

Tyler87898 · 12-29-2013, 12:51 AM

I have a guy in my MLB league that just batted .419 a couple seasons ago. Guess what, his lowest batting average in his career was his 33 game stint in the beginning of his career (117 AB) when he batted .333. That's the lowest. Career .367 hitter. I guess that's what extremely high contact and avoid Ks will do. It doesn't hurt that his power is also elite, defense above average, and a decent eye. I believe he can make it to 3000 hits if he stops getting injured. Also he has 90 WAR by age 32. I honestly can't believe that OOTP created this guy, he's so good!

le receveur · 12-29-2013, 02:22 AM

sorry never look at BA. Did have a few over .450 OBP, but not sure what part was from walks. is there a way to look back?

Sweed · 12-29-2013, 02:52 AM

25 season into an ongoing game started in v4 and imported into each new version and now being played in v14. I have had one .400 hitter in that time.

Ken Householder hit .409 in 2021, year 19 of my dynasty.

Desmond Naquin hin .3990 in 2016.

The next highest average is .3758 with only 12 players hitting over .370 in my leagues history, including Householder's .409 and Naquin's .3990.

JMDurron · 12-29-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Baseball

Bret Hawkins is the only player in my online league history that has done it. He almost did it a second time last season. He batted .413 in 1988 (two years ago). He's probably the best player I've ever seen in any league.

Player Page: Player Report for #16 Bret 'Hawk' Hawkins

I noticed that he only played in 139 games. How long was the season, and how large is this league?

Mr. Baseball · 12-29-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JMDurron

I noticed that he only played in 139 games. How long was the season, and how large is this league?

It's a twelve team league. 144 Game Season. Even still, he batted 521 times. I'm pretty sure that's enough to qualify in a 162 game MLB year.

Ike348 · 12-29-2013, 02:09 PM

You would need 502.2 plate appearances to qualify for a batting title in a 162-game season, so 521 would be enough.

r0nster · 12-29-2013, 04:55 PM

the best I have seen in my league is .381 player flirted with .400 at all-star break but never could get back into the .390s

MarkInCincy · 12-29-2013, 05:47 PM

I had a guy hit .406 but ended up 1 PA short, due to injury limiting playing time

scott1964 · 12-29-2013, 09:00 PM

Here is mine.

Honorable_Pawn · 12-29-2013, 09:14 PM

I never get anyone around .400 while I play. It usually happens in the early years when I am establishing history. I think the closest I've had was .370ish

SandMan · 12-30-2013, 01:57 AM

I play fictional only and have played over 1000-2000 seasons since 2001. I have never had a .400 player but I have seen 3 on AI controlled teams. I use default settings and most of the time my leading BA player hits about .350.

Marinersfan51 · 01-02-2014, 11:34 AM

A player in my league hit .412 with 61 doubles and 17 homers in his age 28 season winning MVP. It was his third of four years as a regular starter, always hitting over .300 with 15+ homers. He bounced around as a bench player for a few more years but was effectively done at 30. One of the strangest careers I've seen.

eriqjaffe · 01-02-2014, 01:51 PM

I had a player in a long-running solo league who was hitting .400 with two days left in the season. I took him out of the starting lineup, but the AI manager used him as a pinch hitter in both games. He went 2-2 and finished at .402 for the year.

In hindsight I probably should have just played the games out, but I always marveled at the fact that he did what he did.

ThatSeventiesGuy · 01-02-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

I never get anyone around .400 while I play. It usually happens in the early years when I am establishing history. I think the closest I've had was .370ish

Same with my current fictional league. Had one guy hit .394, but that's the highest I've seen.

I did have a guy hit .402 once in the last season (1989) of my old, now-fried league, the only one to do it in that league's 29-year history, but he was using PEEs (performance-enhancing edits), so that probably doesn't count.

JMDurron · 01-06-2014, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMDurron

So, on June 6th, 2020 (Draft Day in MLB), after 55 out of 162 games, I have a player batting .416. I am reasonably confident that this quest will end in slumping and tears, but I'm assuming that others here may have had some success, or even particularly spectacular letdowns in the quest for such an average.

By July 10, my guy is now down to .350.

I expected him to come up short, but not quite this short, this quickly.

scott1964 · 01-06-2014, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JMDurron

By July 10, my guy is now down to .350.

I expected him to come up short, but not quite this short, this quickly.

Did he eat his Wheaties

12-28-2013, 11:37 PM	#2
Mr. Baseball All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mequon, Wisconsin Posts: 1,020	Bret Hawkins is the only player in my online league history that has done it. He almost did it a second time last season. He batted .413 in 1988 (two years ago). He's probably the best player I've ever seen in any league. Player Page: Player Report for #16 Bret 'Hawk' Hawkins __________________ Duluth Danger (HBL) Dynasty Report -- Online League Franchise Duluth - 1985/1989 North League Champions! Last edited by Mr. Baseball; 12-28-2013 at 11:38 PM.

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Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	I never get anyone around .400 while I play. It usually happens in the early years when I am establishing history. I think the closest I've had was .370ish __________________ PBA Quickstart for OOTP Background Images Collection All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.

12-30-2013, 01:57 AM	#15
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,946	I play fictional only and have played over 1000-2000 seasons since 2001. I have never had a .400 player but I have seen 3 on AI controlled teams. I use default settings and most of the time my leading BA player hits about .350. Last edited by SandMan; 12-30-2013 at 02:20 AM.

01-02-2014, 01:51 PM	#17
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,648	I had a player in a long-running solo league who was hitting .400 with two days left in the season. I took him out of the starting lineup, but the AI manager used him as a pinch hitter in both games. He went 2-2 and finished at .402 for the year. In hindsight I probably should have just played the games out, but I always marveled at the fact that he did what he did. __________________

12-28-2013, 11:25 PM	#1
JMDurron All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,262	The Quest for .400 So, on June 6th, 2020 (Draft Day in MLB), after 55 out of 162 games, I have a player batting .416. I am reasonably confident that this quest will end in slumping and tears, but I'm assuming that others here may have had some success, or even particularly spectacular letdowns in the quest for such an average. So, for those of you who have been playing mature leagues (I use that caveat since I believe people get outlandish statistical results early in the lifespan of many leagues, both historical and fictional), how often do you see the .400 threshold broken? Have any of your players done it? Looking at MLB-sized fictional leagues here, or MLB Quickstarts for the dataset, since I suspect smaller leagues or more mismatched talent levels might make it too easy for it to be a fair comparison.

12-28-2013, 11:46 PM	#4
Snarf054 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 127	I had a player on my team bat .412 for the season. He then proceeded to bat .125 for the playoffs and also failed to win the Offensive MVP award losing to a guy who batted in the .360's.

12-29-2013, 12:51 AM	#5
Tyler87898 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 794	I have a guy in my MLB league that just batted .419 a couple seasons ago. Guess what, his lowest batting average in his career was his 33 game stint in the beginning of his career (117 AB) when he batted .333. That's the lowest. Career .367 hitter. I guess that's what extremely high contact and avoid Ks will do. It doesn't hurt that his power is also elite, defense above average, and a decent eye. I believe he can make it to 3000 hits if he stops getting injured. Also he has 90 WAR by age 32. I honestly can't believe that OOTP created this guy, he's so good!

12-29-2013, 02:22 AM	#6
le receveur All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: canada Posts: 1,736	sorry never look at BA. Did have a few over .450 OBP, but not sure what part was from walks. is there a way to look back?

12-29-2013, 02:52 AM	#7
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,706	25 season into an ongoing game started in v4 and imported into each new version and now being played in v14. I have had one .400 hitter in that time. Ken Householder hit .409 in 2021, year 19 of my dynasty. Desmond Naquin hin .3990 in 2016. The next highest average is .3758 with only 12 players hitting over .370 in my leagues history, including Householder's .409 and Naquin's .3990.

12-29-2013, 04:55 PM	#11
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,053	the best I have seen in my league is .381 player flirted with .400 at all-star break but never could get back into the .390s

12-29-2013, 05:47 PM	#12
MarkInCincy All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Cincinnait, OH (WestSider) Posts: 657	I had a guy hit .406 but ended up 1 PA short, due to injury limiting playing time

01-02-2014, 11:34 AM	#16
Marinersfan51 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 777	A player in my league hit .412 with 61 doubles and 17 homers in his age 28 season winning MVP. It was his third of four years as a regular starter, always hitting over .300 with 15+ homers. He bounced around as a bench player for a few more years but was effectively done at 30. One of the strangest careers I've seen.