Be able to move a % of a players salaries, and injured players in trades

Mariners fan 24 · 10-12-2013, 01:52 AM

My suggestion for the next version is to have the feature to be able to pay for a players salary in a trade and have it effect the quality of players you receive. Such as when rebuilding teams with payroll space take on money in a veterans contract to get more prospects from contending teams.

It would also be nice to finally be able to trade for injured players in single player mode. A downside to this would be if we had to wait a day for the league to approve.

RchW · 10-12-2013, 03:12 AM

This can happen now. See some recent threads. It's not yet evolved to be as sophisticated as your idea. Many of us want a reworked trade module.

Fyrestorm3 · 10-14-2013, 12:02 PM

The issue I see with trading injured players is that it would be incredibly difficult to get the AI to value them correctly. There could be a potential exploit where you've got a four-star pitcher who's just gone down for Tommy John surgery (and, as always, has the possibility of coming back as crap), that the AI jumps at the opportunity of acquiring.

So, you say, just devalue the AI's judgment of injured players, right? But then you run the risk of devaluing it TOO much, where the AI doesn't see the point in trading for that same 4-star pitcher who's down for a week with elbow soreness. There would need to be a gradient where the AI takes into account the severity of the injury in its evaluation. I'm not saying that it can't be done, but I feel like it would be hard to be done properly.

olivertheorem · 10-16-2013, 10:34 PM

Degrade it as a percentage of the season lost, based on calendar days? So that weeklong injury isn't a big deal, but losing a year (or more) is huge.

Fyrestorm3 · 10-17-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by olivertheorem

Degrade it as a percentage of the season lost, based on calendar days? So that weeklong injury isn't a big deal, but losing a year (or more) is huge.

But then you get into the issue of how defining a player who's almost ready to return from a long injury. A guy who is two weeks away from coming back from Tommy John surgery is still a huge risk. A guy who is two weeks away from coming back from a broken arm is much less risky. And what about a guy who was out for 6 months with a broken arm? Not as significant as a muscle injury would be. You'd have to code the AI to understand the difference between injuries as well as the difference between length of injuries.

I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see this, just that it would likely be a difficult thing to code, and there are other things that I would like to see the dev team focus on first.

I miss J.T. Snow · 10-20-2013, 12:47 PM

On a related note, if you release a player with multiple years left on his contract, those salaries should be spread out over the remaining years, not lumped in immediately.

mgom27 · 10-20-2013, 05:51 PM

PTB?
Multi Team?

10-12-2013, 01:52 AM	#1
Mariners fan 24 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 65	Be able to move a % of a players salaries, and injured players in trades My suggestion for the next version is to have the feature to be able to pay for a players salary in a trade and have it effect the quality of players you receive. Such as when rebuilding teams with payroll space take on money in a veterans contract to get more prospects from contending teams. It would also be nice to finally be able to trade for injured players in single player mode. A downside to this would be if we had to wait a day for the league to approve.

10-12-2013, 03:12 AM	#2
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	This can happen now. See some recent threads. It's not yet evolved to be as sophisticated as your idea. Many of us want a reworked trade module. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

10-14-2013, 12:02 PM	#3
Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	The issue I see with trading injured players is that it would be incredibly difficult to get the AI to value them correctly. There could be a potential exploit where you've got a four-star pitcher who's just gone down for Tommy John surgery (and, as always, has the possibility of coming back as crap), that the AI jumps at the opportunity of acquiring. So, you say, just devalue the AI's judgment of injured players, right? But then you run the risk of devaluing it TOO much, where the AI doesn't see the point in trading for that same 4-star pitcher who's down for a week with elbow soreness. There would need to be a gradient where the AI takes into account the severity of the injury in its evaluation. I'm not saying that it can't be done, but I feel like it would be hard to be done properly. Last edited by Fyrestorm3; 10-14-2013 at 12:10 PM.

10-20-2013, 05:51 PM	#7
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,533	PTB? Multi Team? __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

10-16-2013, 10:34 PM	#4
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	Degrade it as a percentage of the season lost, based on calendar days? So that weeklong injury isn't a big deal, but losing a year (or more) is huge.

10-20-2013, 12:47 PM	#6
I miss J.T. Snow Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27	On a related note, if you release a player with multiple years left on his contract, those salaries should be spread out over the remaining years, not lumped in immediately.