Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP 26 Available - FHM 12 Available - OOTP Go! Available

Out of the Park Baseball 26 Buy Now!

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Prior Versions of Our Games > Out of the Park Baseball 14 > OOTP 14 - General Discussions

OOTP 14 - General Discussions Discuss the new 2013 version of Out of the Park Baseball here!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-29-2013, 02:04 AM   #1
PSUColonel
Hall Of Famer
 
PSUColonel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,107
I don't understand this one!!

How can the stats and scouting be so off from the stars and overall rating? I have the box checked for evaluation of 40/30/20/10 (AI)
Attached Images
Image Image 
PSUColonel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 02:22 AM   #2
damientheomen3
Hall Of Famer
 
damientheomen3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: with my army of orangutans
Posts: 2,948
Because:

1. He can be overperforming. Are you seriously saying you don't expect a .270 hitter can have a .397 month-and-change?

2. Scouting reports take time to update. The last report was on 3/30/2013, and your game date is 5/16/2013.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by locuspc View Post
They did much better at implementing pants than launch angles.
damientheomen3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 02:23 AM   #3
Questdog
Hall Of Famer
 
Questdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases......
Posts: 16,142
I don't understand you.....
Questdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 02:42 AM   #4
D-BacksJosh
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Arizona
Posts: 875
Looks good to me.
D-BacksJosh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 09:20 AM   #5
PSUColonel
Hall Of Famer
 
PSUColonel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,107
Quote:
Originally Posted by damientheomen3 View Post
Because:

1. He can be overperforming. Are you seriously saying you don't expect a .270 hitter can have a .397 month-and-change?

2. Scouting reports take time to update. The last report was on 3/30/2013, and your game date is 5/16/2013.

but don't the current stars usually exceed the potentials in a case like this?
PSUColonel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 09:21 AM   #6
PSUColonel
Hall Of Famer
 
PSUColonel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,107
Quote:
Originally Posted by Questdog View Post
I don't understand you.....
And why is that exactly?
PSUColonel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 09:24 AM   #7
PSUColonel
Hall Of Famer
 
PSUColonel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,107
I am actually saying the players looks much better to me than the overall rating he is getting. His stats (right now) are good, and his ratings also appear pretty good. Again, using 40/30/20/10. Just seems a bit off to me for some reason.
PSUColonel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 09:27 AM   #8
SirMichaelJordan
Hall Of Famer
 
SirMichaelJordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,716
Use 25/25/25/25

His ratings are pretty average and thats weighted at 40. He only played 38 games this year so his current year stats aren't really being accounted for as of yet so his last year stats have more weight to them which was a bad year for him. His 2 years ago stats which was a good year for him doesn't have much weight.

Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 08-29-2013 at 09:31 AM.
SirMichaelJordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 09:58 AM   #9
Honorable_Pawn
Hall Of Famer
 
Honorable_Pawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 6,407
This is how I evaluate it using 40/30/20/10:


The rating scale of 2-8 has 7 integers and the 5-Star scale has 10 integers. Therefore, each point of rating is worth 1.42857 stars. So, looking at the overall "rating-picture" including hitting, defense, running, et al. that player looks to be about a 5 overall maybe slightly higher. So, 5*1.42857=7.142855=3.57 stars seems reasonable for all positions. But, keep in mind that these ratings are probably not the high-end when looking at just 1B's in the league. So that 3.57 is very-likely to be high-end because it factors in all positions. But it is likely that when compared to other 1B in the league his ratings are closer to average than above average. Therefore, I must lower that 3.57 so it is closer to the middle 2.5. If 3.5 is above average and 2.5 is average and I think he is closer to average than above-average then my score for ratings is 2.90. So, 40% is 2.90.

Next, is the hot current season (small sample) let's go with 5.0 stars. So, 30% is 5.00 stars.

Next is that very poor 2012 season so 20% is a 1 maybe tops 1.5. That's pretty weak for arguably the most-productive offensive postion in the game--1B. I'll use 1. So 20%=1.

Next is that 2011 season. Not too bad but not all that good for a 1B. HR's are light, SLG% is light, and the OBP is probably a little above league-average. I'm not that impressed. I want to say 2.0 stars because we are talking about the offense of a 1B but I'll give the player the benefit of the doubt and go middle middle with a 2.5 stars. No check that...I expect more than middle-middle offense from a 1B--Make that 2.0 stars. So, 10% =2.0 stars.

The math please...

40% * 2.90 = 1.160
30% * 5.00 = 1.500
20% * 1.00 = 0.200
10% * 2.00 = 0.200

Total 3.06

So, yes it appears that the game is rating the player low. My guess is that you have a ton of good 1B talent in the league or that the league has high-talent levels overall.

Also maybe the game isn't giving a full 30% weight to the current season stats because of the small sample-size. Maybe it is still pulling the ratings to some degree for the current season which would lower that 5.0 that i awarded.
__________________
PBA Quickstart for OOTP
Background Images Collection

All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.

Last edited by Honorable_Pawn; 08-29-2013 at 10:00 AM.
Honorable_Pawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 10:01 AM   #10
David Watts
Hall Of Famer
 
David Watts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks
Posts: 9,983
Infractions: 0/1 (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PSUColonel View Post
And why is that exactly?
I have a homework assignment for you. Hopefully, you can make use of the long Labor Day weekend to get it done. Start a league, fictional, historical, MLB quickstart, your choice. Then simply enjoy it. Don't pick at every little bit of minutia that comes your way. Don't at anytime think to yourself that you could create a game better than the makers of OOTP. Don't compare the game to a soccer sim. Wow! did that guy just win 20 games for the second season in a row. Look at Jackson, he is going to set all kinds of records. Did that guy really just get 3 triples in one game. These are things you might find yourself saying or thinking. If you don't, I suggest you may want to find another hobby as OOTP clearly isn't for you.
David Watts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 10:02 AM   #11
Honorable_Pawn
Hall Of Famer
 
Honorable_Pawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 6,407
__________________
PBA Quickstart for OOTP
Background Images Collection

All PBA games broadcast live on Steam.
Honorable_Pawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 10:53 AM   #12
SirMichaelJordan
Hall Of Famer
 
SirMichaelJordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,716
I don't understand this one!!

Yea that 30% doesn't take effect until a certain amount of At-Bats.
SirMichaelJordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 11:03 AM   #13
PSUColonel
Hall Of Famer
 
PSUColonel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,107
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan View Post
Yea that 30% doesn't take effect until a certain amount of At-Bats.
This must be the issue...still though I would have thought the 40 percent ratings would have had more impact, but oh well.

Last edited by PSUColonel; 08-29-2013 at 11:04 AM.
PSUColonel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 11:38 AM   #14
SirMichaelJordan
Hall Of Famer
 
SirMichaelJordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,716
I don't understand this one!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by PSUColonel View Post
This must be the issue...still though I would have thought the 40 percent ratings would have had more impact, but oh well.
It also depends how talented other 1B's are in the league assuming you have that option check and assuming that you are using modern day rosters, Looney is pretty below average compared to other 1st baseman in the Majors right now.

Last edited by SirMichaelJordan; 08-29-2013 at 11:39 AM.
SirMichaelJordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 02:13 PM   #15
MizzouRah
Hall Of Famer
 
MizzouRah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Troy, Mo
Posts: 6,252
I think people look at the OVR rating too much.

38 games though.. not really much to base an OVR off of yet.
MizzouRah is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:45 PM.

 

Major League and Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of Major League Baseball. Visit MLB.com and MiLB.com.

Officially Licensed Product – MLB Players, Inc.

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2023 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2024 Out of the Park Developments