Player ratings not improving?

Boston15 · 07-23-2013, 09:30 PM

I played out 2013 with the Red Sox. Due to Mike Napolis season being cut short in May via concussion, I was forced to use Mike Carp (rating 21) at first. He ended up hitting 30 home runs, albeit a .252 average. I was expecting his rating to improve based in part on his solid season, but at the start of 2014 he is still a 21. same happened to Daniel Nava (also a 21) who posted a .770 OPS over 450 at bats but didn't improve rating wise.

What does this have to do with most likely? Age? And how does this predict their performances next year? Will they perform at 2013 levels this next season or were they just "lucky"?

RchW · 07-23-2013, 09:49 PM

Is player development on?

olivertheorem · 07-23-2013, 11:21 PM

Improvement is not based on how good a player's season is, at least not solely. This is not EA (thank goodness). There are a number of factors that influence player development, including but not necessarily limited to coaching, remaining potential, performance, intelligence, and work ethic.

OBSL Commish · 07-24-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston15

I played out 2013 with the Red Sox. Due to Mike Napolis season being cut short in May via concussion, I was forced to use Mike Carp (rating 21) at first. He ended up hitting 30 home runs, albeit a .252 average. I was expecting his rating to improve based in part on his solid season, but at the start of 2014 he is still a 21. same happened to Daniel Nava (also a 21) who posted a .770 OPS over 450 at bats but didn't improve rating wise.

What does this have to do with most likely? Age? And how does this predict their performances next year? Will they perform at 2013 levels this next season or were they just "lucky"?

Age, mostly. Carp is settling into his prime years and Nava is starting down the wrong side of 30. It's doubtful you'll see any ratings jump for them at this point in time. The prime years (27-32) are generally considered the years where players refine their skill sets which are almost wholly developed by age 27.

goalieump413 · 07-24-2013, 02:08 PM

Have Carp and Nava had some injuries in their past?

copied from the online manual...

Injuries often cause a player's development to slow, or could even cause his skills to regress. Injuries can immediately affect a player's current ratings and his potential ratings. The more severe an injury is, the more likely that the player's ratings will suffer. See Injuries and Fatigue for more information.

JMDurron · 07-24-2013, 06:51 PM

If you don't have "AI Evaluation" checked, player ratings will be 100% based on scouting ratings instead of recent performance. If you put AI evaluation weight to 100% "previous year statistics", and click that checkbox, then I bet that you'd see a bump up in their ratings.

Boston15 · 07-24-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JMDurron

If you don't have "AI Evaluation" checked, player ratings will be 100% based on scouting ratings instead of recent performance. If you put AI evaluation weight to 100% "previous year statistics", and click that checkbox, then I bet that you'd see a bump up in their ratings.

I think I have the default setting which is something like 65% AI and 20% previous year stats. And no neither had any injuries in my last season.

Boston15 · 07-24-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by olivertheorem

Improvement is not based on how good a player's season is, at least not solely. This is not EA (thank goodness). There are a number of factors that influence player development, including but not necessarily limited to coaching, remaining potential, performance, intelligence, and work ethic.

I guess i know what you're saying. Another thing-do non-baseball specific factors like intelligence and work ethic and intelligence actually go into ratings?

bly08 · 07-24-2013, 11:37 PM

One of the first things I do in all my of Red Sox MLB starts is to trade away Napoli while he still has value. You can get someone like Rizzo for very cheap at the start of the game.

JMDurron · 07-25-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston15

I think I have the default setting which is something like 65% AI and 20% previous year stats. And no neither had any injuries in my last season.

Make sure the related "Use AI Evaluation Instead Of..." setting is checked. I made that mistake for about 2 years in my last league, and suddenly the AI got a whole lot less stupid once I actually activated it. The percentages do nothing without that checkbox.

07-23-2013, 09:30 PM	#1
Boston15 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 47	Player ratings not improving? I played out 2013 with the Red Sox. Due to Mike Napolis season being cut short in May via concussion, I was forced to use Mike Carp (rating 21) at first. He ended up hitting 30 home runs, albeit a .252 average. I was expecting his rating to improve based in part on his solid season, but at the start of 2014 he is still a 21. same happened to Daniel Nava (also a 21) who posted a .770 OPS over 450 at bats but didn't improve rating wise. What does this have to do with most likely? Age? And how does this predict their performances next year? Will they perform at 2013 levels this next season or were they just "lucky"?

07-23-2013, 09:49 PM	#2
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Is player development on? __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

07-23-2013, 11:21 PM	#3
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	Improvement is not based on how good a player's season is, at least not solely. This is not EA (thank goodness). There are a number of factors that influence player development, including but not necessarily limited to coaching, remaining potential, performance, intelligence, and work ethic.

07-24-2013, 02:08 PM	#5
goalieump413 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 765	Have Carp and Nava had some injuries in their past? copied from the online manual... Injuries often cause a player's development to slow, or could even cause his skills to regress. Injuries can immediately affect a player's current ratings and his potential ratings. The more severe an injury is, the more likely that the player's ratings will suffer. See Injuries and Fatigue for more information.

07-24-2013, 06:51 PM	#6
JMDurron All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,260	If you don't have "AI Evaluation" checked, player ratings will be 100% based on scouting ratings instead of recent performance. If you put AI evaluation weight to 100% "previous year statistics", and click that checkbox, then I bet that you'd see a bump up in their ratings.

07-24-2013, 11:37 PM	#9
bly08 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 105	One of the first things I do in all my of Red Sox MLB starts is to trade away Napoli while he still has value. You can get someone like Rizzo for very cheap at the start of the game.