Paul Clemens, what did I do right...

hitmanwa · 07-21-2013, 12:19 AM

or did I just get lucky?

Déjà Bru · 07-21-2013, 03:14 PM

If you are talking about him acquiring another pitch, and a good one at that, then it's a matter of luck. It's also interesting to me in that I've never seen the game do that before.

hitmanwa · 07-21-2013, 05:09 PM

Not only that but he went from a 2 star potential to a 4.5 star potential in about 6 months at the age of 25/26.

olivertheorem · 07-21-2013, 05:57 PM

Happened to Austin Wates in my game. Sometimes, you just get lucky.

rocknfire7 · 07-21-2013, 08:21 PM

I've seen it happen to a smaller degree with two veteran pitchers in one of my online league teams. In my situation they didn't gain a pitch but suddenly were able to stop walking batters and both had stellar performance at the tail end of their careers. One was a disappointment for most of his career (think Koufax) the other was a washed up minor leaguer who I took a shot at. He was a good pitcher for three years at the MLB level but up until that time he was nothing more then a good AAA level workhorse. Unfortunately the league had to be restarted and I never got to see how much longer they would have lasted. One was 37 and the other was 38 or 39.

DrSatan · 07-21-2013, 11:25 PM

I've seen this rapid ratings bump happen a few times, but in every case the ratings bump is short lived. They might hold for a season or two and then decline (usually rapidly) after that. I've never had it with a pitcher before, so hopefully you hit the jackpot. It's usually 1B's for me, and they do give me a couple decent years, but end up trade bate once the decline starts. I had one guy get sudden bumps at age 28 on my AAA squad, which is weird because usually after 25 not much happens in the way of positive ratings bumps.

bly08 · 07-21-2013, 11:45 PM

this actually happened in one of my leagues with him, became the 2nd Yu Darvish.

NateAndStuff · 07-22-2013, 07:47 AM

Its especially weird because he hasn't even played very well at AAA.

Déjà Bru · 07-22-2013, 11:08 AM

I just realized that this guy's last name is Clemens. He isn't related to Roger, is he? If so, that might explain things . . .

CatKnight · 07-22-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

I just realized that this guy's last name is Clemens. He isn't related to Roger, is he? If so, that might explain things . . .

True. Maybe Roger found him some 'roids.

JMDurron · 07-22-2013, 11:58 AM

Steroids are so 1990s. He found "An Anti-Aging Clinic".

DC4MVP · 07-22-2013, 04:55 PM

I've picked up random 23-24 year olds in the free agent pool for depth for my ML club (2-2.5 star ceiling players) and have had a couple turn into 4-5 star superstars.

Good coaching maybe?

olivertheorem · 07-22-2013, 08:52 PM

Found a guy in the 2015 offseason in my Astros game. Some default guy named Tim Kiley (I think, don't have the game open). He was released from some org back in 2013, and now he's a 75/45/70 reliever who was willing to take a minor-league deal at 27. I stuck him in AAA to see if he really turns out to be a high-K, low-BB, high-HR pitcher. One month in, and he's not doing too bad.

hitmanwa · 07-28-2013, 11:24 AM

This is where he's pretty much ended up.

mpejkrm · 07-28-2013, 12:00 PM

Looks like he had a few good years at least.

JMDurron · 07-28-2013, 12:06 PM

Seems like a standard middle-tier player value in MLB. Good player to have during his pre-FA years, mostly worthless after that.

07-21-2013, 12:19 AM	#1
hitmanwa Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 41	Paul Clemens, what did I do right... or did I just get lucky?

07-21-2013, 03:14 PM	#2
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 10,939	If you are talking about him acquiring another pitch, and a good one at that, then it's a matter of luck. It's also interesting to me in that I've never seen the game do that before. __________________ - Bru

07-22-2013, 11:08 AM	#9
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 10,939	I just realized that this guy's last name is Clemens. He isn't related to Roger, is he? If so, that might explain things . . . __________________ - Bru

07-21-2013, 05:09 PM	#3
hitmanwa Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 41	Not only that but he went from a 2 star potential to a 4.5 star potential in about 6 months at the age of 25/26.

07-21-2013, 05:57 PM	#4
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	Happened to Austin Wates in my game. Sometimes, you just get lucky.

07-21-2013, 08:21 PM	#5
rocknfire7 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,907 Blog Entries: 1 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	I've seen it happen to a smaller degree with two veteran pitchers in one of my online league teams. In my situation they didn't gain a pitch but suddenly were able to stop walking batters and both had stellar performance at the tail end of their careers. One was a disappointment for most of his career (think Koufax) the other was a washed up minor leaguer who I took a shot at. He was a good pitcher for three years at the MLB level but up until that time he was nothing more then a good AAA level workhorse. Unfortunately the league had to be restarted and I never got to see how much longer they would have lasted. One was 37 and the other was 38 or 39.

07-21-2013, 11:25 PM	#6
DrSatan All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 562	I've seen this rapid ratings bump happen a few times, but in every case the ratings bump is short lived. They might hold for a season or two and then decline (usually rapidly) after that. I've never had it with a pitcher before, so hopefully you hit the jackpot. It's usually 1B's for me, and they do give me a couple decent years, but end up trade bate once the decline starts. I had one guy get sudden bumps at age 28 on my AAA squad, which is weird because usually after 25 not much happens in the way of positive ratings bumps.

07-21-2013, 11:45 PM	#7
bly08 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 105	this actually happened in one of my leagues with him, became the 2nd Yu Darvish.

07-22-2013, 07:47 AM	#8
NateAndStuff Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 231	Its especially weird because he hasn't even played very well at AAA.

07-22-2013, 11:58 AM	#11
JMDurron All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,262	Steroids are so 1990s. He found "An Anti-Aging Clinic".

07-22-2013, 04:55 PM	#12
DC4MVP Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 53	I've picked up random 23-24 year olds in the free agent pool for depth for my ML club (2-2.5 star ceiling players) and have had a couple turn into 4-5 star superstars. Good coaching maybe?

07-22-2013, 08:52 PM	#13
olivertheorem All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,919	Found a guy in the 2015 offseason in my Astros game. Some default guy named Tim Kiley (I think, don't have the game open). He was released from some org back in 2013, and now he's a 75/45/70 reliever who was willing to take a minor-league deal at 27. I stuck him in AAA to see if he really turns out to be a high-K, low-BB, high-HR pitcher. One month in, and he's not doing too bad.

07-28-2013, 11:24 AM	#14
hitmanwa Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 41	This is where he's pretty much ended up.

07-28-2013, 12:00 PM	#15
mpejkrm All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 951	Looks like he had a few good years at least.

07-28-2013, 12:06 PM	#16
JMDurron All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,262	Seems like a standard middle-tier player value in MLB. Good player to have during his pre-FA years, mostly worthless after that.