Fight Predictions

Cap · 07-19-2013, 10:54 AM

To help promote Title Bout 2013:

Boxrec.com has a list on the port-side of their page of upcoming fights. It might be cool to have two guys here who have the updated ratings of these boxers run a prediction for each match. One guy would run the fight once and the other would run it a hundred times. Two mods would be good or someone from the Head Office.

Next one up is August 3rd at Mohegan Sun Casino, CT betwixt Eddie Chambers and Thabiso Mchunu - cruiserweights.

Cap

Infinity · 07-19-2013, 04:31 PM

Excellent idea!

Mark42661 · 07-19-2013, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap

To help promote Title Bout 2013:

Next one up is August 3rd at Mohegan Sun Casino, CT betwixt Eddie Chambers and Thabiso Mchunu - cruiserweights.

Cap

Betwixt? Where are you from... Canada or something?

Cap · 07-19-2013, 07:31 PM

We landed here many years ago by your reckoning and have been observing the earth for signs of intelligent life.

We're still looking.

Cap

BradC · 07-22-2013, 03:49 PM

As a representative from the home office, I would be happy to run these sims. We could add them to our Predictions page, where we already have a prediction for Mayweather vs. Alvarez:

TBCB Development Website- Predictions

I can also publicize the results on Twitter and Facebook, as well as on my media list.

I would just appreciate some input from the community RE the best way to set up the boxers for these matches, since most of you know much more about boxing than I do.

Thanks.

Cap · 07-22-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradC

As a representative from the home office, I would be happy to run these sims. We could add them to our Predictions page, where we already have a prediction for Mayweather vs. Alvarez:

TBCB Development Website- Predictions

I can also publicize the results on Twitter and Facebook, as well as on my media list.

I would just appreciate some input from the community RE the best way to set up the boxers for these matches, since most of you know much more about boxing than I do.

Thanks.

You need someone who has the latest official ratings of the fighters in question. Sounds like Ice Tea or Jackyle. They should use the same venue and referee if possible, but mainly they need to use the right career stage for each guy. Is Eddie Chambers Post-Prime? Is Thabiso Mchunu Beginning or Pre-Prime?

Cap

bob_bask · 07-23-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradC

I would just appreciate some input from the community RE the best way to set up the boxers for these matches, since most of you know much more about boxing than I do.

Thanks.

I would run the fights with as much details as possible.

Quote:

1. Fight info: Orleans Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas, NV, United States, 2013-6-11, announcer is Johnny Addie, referee is Howard John Foster

2. Fight info: Aladdin Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, NV, United States, 2013-6-11, announcer is Pat Harker, referee is Bruce McTavish

MGM Grand, Las Vegas. 2013-09-14. Announcer assume will be Michael Buffer and referee can only guess at this point, but wouldn't like odds on Foster or McTavish getting the nod.

Quote:

1. In the red corner: Floyd Mayweather Jr - Trainer: Jack Mosley - Cut Man: Eddie Aliano
In the blue corner: Saul Alvarez - Trainer: Brian Mitchell - Cut Man: Dennie Mancini

2. In the red corner: Floyd Mayweather Jr - Trainer: Lee Espinoza - Cut Man: Gil Clancy
In the blue corner: Saul Alvarez - Trainer: Tom Yankello - Cut Man: George Francis

Floyd Mayweather Jr - Trainer: Floyd Mayweather Sr. or Roger Mayweather - Cut Man: Rafael Garcia
Saul Alvarez - Trainer: Jose "Chepo" Reynoso or Eddy Reynoso. - Cut Man: Have Image, but no name.

Whether the ratings of different individuals impact results, unknown. But would always go with having as much accuracy as possible.

Hope of some help.

BradC · 07-23-2013, 07:39 PM

Thanks for the thoughts. I will drop Ice Tea and Jackyle a line and see how they can help.

IceTea · 07-23-2013, 10:29 PM

What do you need assistance with? The fighter ratings?

Jackyle · 07-24-2013, 08:36 AM

Still in the process of moving, but I can help if needed.

BradC · 07-24-2013, 09:41 PM

Yes, I could use help with the fighter ratings. Do you want to send me a PM? Or you can email me: brad.cook@ootpdevelopments.com

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTea

What do you need assistance with? The fighter ratings?

Cap · 07-25-2013, 08:59 AM

Brad, yes, "career stages" impacts fighter performance. A Post-Prime Joe Louis is not as formidable as a Prime Joe Louis.

Cap

BradC · 07-25-2013, 08:04 PM

And simply changing the career stage in the game isn't the way to do this, correct? I need to have updated ratings too if I'm going to change the career stage? Or does the game contain ratings for various stages in the boxers' careers, and they change automatically when the career stage changes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap

Brad, yes, "career stages" impacts fighter performance. A Post-Prime Joe Louis is not as formidable as a Prime Joe Louis.

Cap

Cap · 07-25-2013, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradC

And simply changing the career stage in the game isn't the way to do this, correct? I need to have updated ratings too if I'm going to change the career stage? Or does the game contain ratings for various stages in the boxers' careers, and they change automatically when the career stage changes?

Others know TB2013 better than I do, but used to be that changing a fighter's career stage impacted his ratings. You have to start with good ratings though. That's where these guys come in.

Cap

BradC · 07-30-2013, 06:25 PM

So, Eddie Chambers is in the game, but Thabiso Mchunu isn't. I just updated the game date, so I should have the current version of the database, as of 7/30/13.

Anyone happen to know if Mchunu will be added at some point? I'll ask Mark, but in the meantime, if anyone has any thoughts, please LMK. Thanks.

Thunder · 07-30-2013, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradC

So, Eddie Chambers is in the game, but Thabiso Mchunu isn't. I just updated the game date, so I should have the current version of the database, as of 7/30/13.

Anyone happen to know if Mchunu will be added at some point? I'll ask Mark, but in the meantime, if anyone has any thoughts, please LMK. Thanks.

This may be a tough one to hang your hat on and you may want to pass. Chambers has never fought at 200, hasn't fought at all in over a year and the other guy has never fought outside of South Africa. Even the most common result in a 100- or 1000-bout test could be way off . . it's kind of a crapshoot.

IceTea · 07-30-2013, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradC

So, Eddie Chambers is in the game, but Thabiso Mchunu isn't. I just updated the game date, so I should have the current version of the database, as of 7/30/13.

Anyone happen to know if Mchunu will be added at some point? I'll ask Mark, but in the meantime, if anyone has any thoughts, please LMK. Thanks.

Thabiso Mchunu is in the game.

BradC · 07-31-2013, 06:42 PM

I updated the database and restarted the game, and then he showed up. Thanks.

IceTea · 08-01-2013, 01:11 AM

Normally, I refrain from rating a fighter in a division until he or she has a reported significant fight in that weight class. I submitted a cruiserweight rating on Eddie Chambers on how I think he will perform there. In my opinion, fighters have problems dropping from heavyweight to cruiserweight and light heavyweight. Chambers received a (5) rating.

BradC · 08-01-2013, 06:34 PM

So, the game has Chambers as a HW, Mchunu as a CW. Both of them are listed in the prime of their careers.

I realize boxers fight within their weight classes, but I didn't think just changing Chambers to a CW would automatically change his ratings accordingly, nor would changing Mchunu's career stage to something else affect his ratings.

I scheduled 100 fights between both of them - TBCB won't let me go above three digits when using the scheduler. Chambers won 55 times and Mchunu 37 times, with 8 draws.

Here are screenshots of two parts of the results page, since I don't have a way to upload that right now. (Paul would need to do that.)

Thoughts? Thanks.

07-19-2013, 10:54 AM	#1
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,070	Fight Predictions To help promote Title Bout 2013: Boxrec.com has a list on the port-side of their page of upcoming fights. It might be cool to have two guys here who have the updated ratings of these boxers run a prediction for each match. One guy would run the fight once and the other would run it a hundred times. Two mods would be good or someone from the Head Office. Next one up is August 3rd at Mohegan Sun Casino, CT betwixt Eddie Chambers and Thabiso Mchunu - cruiserweights. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

07-19-2013, 04:31 PM	#2
Infinity Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Anderson, CA Posts: 3,453	Excellent idea! __________________ *Infinity Boxing Association* *All Time Greatest Tourney - Infinity Style* All Time Greatest Tourney - Infinity Style - Teams *Dream Fights*

07-19-2013, 07:31 PM	#4
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,070	We landed here many years ago by your reckoning and have been observing the earth for signs of intelligent life. We're still looking. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

07-23-2013, 10:29 PM	#9
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,851	What do you need assistance with? The fighter ratings? __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

07-25-2013, 08:59 AM	#12
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 8,070	Brad, yes, "career stages" impacts fighter performance. A Post-Prime Joe Louis is not as formidable as a Prime Joe Louis. Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

07-22-2013, 03:49 PM	#5
BradC All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: northern CA Posts: 1,890	As a representative from the home office, I would be happy to run these sims. We could add them to our Predictions page, where we already have a prediction for Mayweather vs. Alvarez: TBCB Development Website- Predictions I can also publicize the results on Twitter and Facebook, as well as on my media list. I would just appreciate some input from the community RE the best way to set up the boxers for these matches, since most of you know much more about boxing than I do. Thanks.

07-23-2013, 07:39 PM	#8
BradC All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: northern CA Posts: 1,890	Thanks for the thoughts. I will drop Ice Tea and Jackyle a line and see how they can help.

07-24-2013, 08:36 AM	#10
Jackyle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 10,394	Still in the process of moving, but I can help if needed.

07-30-2013, 06:25 PM	#15
BradC All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: northern CA Posts: 1,890	So, Eddie Chambers is in the game, but Thabiso Mchunu isn't. I just updated the game date, so I should have the current version of the database, as of 7/30/13. Anyone happen to know if Mchunu will be added at some point? I'll ask Mark, but in the meantime, if anyone has any thoughts, please LMK. Thanks.

07-31-2013, 06:42 PM	#18
BradC All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: northern CA Posts: 1,890	I updated the database and restarted the game, and then he showed up. Thanks.

08-01-2013, 01:11 AM	#19
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sherrill, NY Posts: 9,851	Normally, I refrain from rating a fighter in a division until he or she has a reported significant fight in that weight class. I submitted a cruiserweight rating on Eddie Chambers on how I think he will perform there. In my opinion, fighters have problems dropping from heavyweight to cruiserweight and light heavyweight. Chambers received a (5) rating. __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone Philadelphia Boxing Boxrec Ross Boxing https://boxingjones.com/

08-01-2013, 06:34 PM	#20
BradC All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: northern CA Posts: 1,890	So, the game has Chambers as a HW, Mchunu as a CW. Both of them are listed in the prime of their careers. I realize boxers fight within their weight classes, but I didn't think just changing Chambers to a CW would automatically change his ratings accordingly, nor would changing Mchunu's career stage to something else affect his ratings. I scheduled 100 fights between both of them - TBCB won't let me go above three digits when using the scheduler. Chambers won 55 times and Mchunu 37 times, with 8 draws. Here are screenshots of two parts of the results page, since I don't have a way to upload that right now. (Paul would need to do that.) Thoughts? Thanks. Attached Images