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Old 06-22-2013, 01:52 PM   #1
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Random historical MLB game in 14?

This is a (perhaps) rather confusing title for something that I am planning to attempt. With my Raccoons dynasty not loving me as much recently, I basically want to take a random MLB franchise in a random year and play from there, building a winner (or if you know me: a perennial cellar dweller with an enormous payroll). This time, I want to play as GM only (for the first time ever). I'm a control freak and it will be very painful for me to watch the AI blow up games for me.

I have two questions: is there a way to have OOTP 14 assign me a random franchise in a random year? I'm 99%+ sure there's not, but then again I tend to miss obvious things all the time.

Doesn't matter too much, I have prepared an Excel sheet to spit out a year (1901-2013), league (AL/NL) and franchise in that league (in alphabetical order). I'll take what it gives me, with certain exceptions like the Yankees or Cardinals.

Or... Maybe I'll roll three and then choose one. Hehe, choose between the 1915 Yankees, 1934 Cardinals and 1979 Yankees ........

Another question I have, and that's actually the more important one - I have not followed the ongoing OOTP 14 problems with an assortment of bugs that were reported at all in the last months after my first league in 14 blew up in my face rather quickly. Is the game stable now or should I go back to 12, which is running silky smooth for me?

Has anybody ever done such a random team assignment themselves? I'll go update this beast now.
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:07 PM   #2
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1. No - not that I know of.
2. The developer has (to my knowledge) ignored all the bug reports since early May (when the last patch was released). In addition, the bug report DB contains a couple of hundred bug reports still unaddressed. So, proceed at your own risk.
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:33 PM   #3
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The developer has (to my knowledge) ignored all the bug reports since early May (when the last patch was released). In addition, the bug report DB contains a couple of hundred bug reports still unaddressed. So, proceed at your own risk.
Ouch.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 06-22-2013, 02:52 PM   #4
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The developer has (to my knowledge) ignored all the bug reports since early May (when the last patch was released). In addition, the bug report DB contains a couple of hundred bug reports still unaddressed. So, proceed at your own risk.
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Ouch.
I'm trying to figure something to say here. Well, first, let me assure Westheim from the perspective of a (yes, only one) player who has been playing 14 steadily since it was released and has had no problems with game stability. Second, let me also assure him that, were such problems at all common, they would surely have generated more than the occasional "Game Crash" threads that are usually settled by calling attention to the poster that crashes are often the fault of the computer rather than the program. Again, the truth is in numbers on these boards and this daily visitor doesn't see any indications of chronic, gamekilling problems.

That said, I don't want to take away from what pstrickert asserts, although I question his motives and placement for his comments. I think he realizes these two things as well as I do (let him correct me if I am wrong):
  • The vast majority of tech support issues are isolated occurrences that often are the result of poor computer management or user error. The fact that these threads are ever addressed is a testament to OOTPD dedication.
  • The principals of OOTPD were on a vacation of several weeks that they took pains to announce in advance in this forum. I believe their hiatus ended less than two weeks ago.
That said, they should take steps to avoid the embarrassment of the volume of open threads in Tech Support by either:
  • Addressing each and every one of them, as promised
  • Announcing and publicizing in advance that not every complaint will be fully addressed and some may be dismissed with the terse comment of "computer malfunction / user error," or
  • Do away with Tech Support altogether.
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:14 PM   #5
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I have played 14 when it came out (not for any meaningful length of time), and didn't have any bugs hurt me other than player names being chopped up with special characters and some minor graphical glitches.

But I usually try to go in for the long haul in my games (most still fail quickly) and browsing over the bug report thread's last few pages doesn't make me confident that the game won't blow up in my face before long.

By the way, first I rolled - of course - the Cardinals

If this takes off, it will be the 1914 Browns! (blinks) I don't know a single guy on that team
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:27 PM   #6
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This is a sensible approach, W. Examine the bug report thread and assume that none of the issues reported in the past six weeks has been addressed. None of them may be game killers. But you'll have to make that call.
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:30 PM   #7
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BTW, the developer plans to release another patch. I have no reliable information on the timetable. But in the past, he has usually released a patch near the All-Star break. So, we may see some action on the bug reports by then.
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:46 PM   #8
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West what about doing a random league and adding 1 historical franchise every (through Import team) 5-10 years? Start with an 8 team MAL league add say the 1915 Yankees and any year for the Cubs and start with one of those teams. Of course then you have fictional and real players til the real players retire.
What about creating a league of all the worst teams of all time at 1900. import historical rookies and build it that way.
Just tossing ideas out, neither seems fun to me.
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Ouch.
To be fair, the developer probably needed to disengage from the game for a while (for the sake of his own health). Getting him to re-engage at this point is near impossible.
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:51 PM   #10
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The fact that these threads are ever addressed is a testament to OOTPD dedication.
Good post, DB. I would only take issue with this statement. Dedication is not the word that comes to mind when I know for a fact that some bug reports have languished in the bug report DB for months (and in some cases years).
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Good post, DB. I would only take issue with this statement. Dedication is not the word that comes to mind when I know for a fact that some bug reports have languished in the bug report DB for months (and in some cases years).
Fair enough. It does not give this game the proper image that it deserves, in my opinion.
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Old 06-22-2013, 04:27 PM   #12
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BTW, the developer plans to release another patch. I have no reliable information on the timetable. But in the past, he has usually released a patch near the All-Star break. So, we may see some action on the bug reports by then.
Ah, I'm not gonna wait on another patch. Tomorrow is Sunday, and I've got nothing else to do.^^

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West what about doing a random league and adding 1 historical franchise every (through Import team) 5-10 years? Start with an 8 team MAL league add say the 1915 Yankees and any year for the Cubs and start with one of those teams. Of course then you have fictional and real players til the real players retire.
What about creating a league of all the worst teams of all time at 1900. import historical rookies and build it that way.
Just tossing ideas out, neither seems fun to me.
Neither do they to me.^^

Some things have to be in order. F.e. random debut leagues give me the creeps. If Justin Verlander would have been supposed to pitch to Babe Ruth, both would have been born in the same generation.

Thanks guys for your input. I may kick this off tomorrow. Now I'm gonna watch my Mets lose in the most horrible ways imaginable.
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:24 PM   #13
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As for random teams, Baseball Reference does this. Go to their home page. On the tool bar at the top of the page, far left, slide over "More". Scan down to the Frivolities section, then across to Random Page. Clicking there, you'll either get a team or a player. If it's a player, you could use his team as your beginning point. Repeat as desired as there will be different results each time you click.
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