DH into field, pitcher batting in AL?

[JBuck814366460]

I've had a couple interesting games playing as the Anaheim Angels tonight. In two separate games, a position player got injured and due to my lack of depth on the bench, I had to put the DH into the field and let the pitcher bat in order to continue. Both times though, the game seems to have had issues with me slotting the pitcher into the spot vacated by the injured position player with the DH in the field replacing the injured position player. First time it happened the game automatically took Mike Trout out of the game while i was trying to move Trout from left to center field to replace an injured Peter Bourjos, and then put Mark Trumbo in Left field (he being the DH usually). this left me with no choice but to put a fielder from the bench playing out of position.

Second time it happened was an injury to Albert Pujols after Pujols had a base hit, he hurt himself rounding the bases and had to be taken out. I put a pinch runner in, expecting to put Trumbo at 1B, but after the inning the game would not let me put the pitcher in the spot vacated by Pujols and the pinch runner, which led to weirdness involving the pinchrunner staying in the game to pitch.

Am I doing something wrong here with the placing of the DH into the field and putting the pitcher in the batting order? If this is a bug I've encountered I want to make the developers aware of it.

Jared

[MrSmooth]

Rules, Regulations and Statistics | MLB.com: Official info

Scroll down a bit it will give you the rules on the DH. I'm not sure I quite understand what you're asking or if the game implements the official MLB rules regarding the DH.

[goalieump413]

Copied from the text of the MLB rulebook regarding the DH...

The Designated Hitter may be used defensively, continuing to bat in the same position in the batting order, but the pitcher must then bat in the place of the substituted defensive player, unless more than one substitution is made, and the manager then must designate their spots in the batting order.

In your written examples, was Trumbo in your batting order as the DH in both cases? If so, you lost the DH in both cases. I can't speak whether or not the AI has a substitution "timing" glitch, but on the surface, it does look like you tried to make proper substitutions, and the game disregarded them.

A couple of questions though:

1. Were you playing out the game?
2. If so, do you normally control the lineups?

There's been some recent discussion about some ratings differences when you simulate a game vs play out a game, so there could be some substitution differences as well, especially if you're the GM and you leave control of lineups to your manager.

[maineyankee7]

In both cases, by rule, you should have been allowed to make those substitutions. I don't play out games so I don't know how to correctly make those moves. I know in another game I play it only works if you make the move in a certain order. Maybe OOTP is like that too. Anyone else?

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y20...ball_rules.pdf

Rule 6.10

[TribeFanInNC]

You can not put the DH in the field in OOTP. It's one of the quirks that Markus has never programmed into the game. I think it falls under the category of "bigger fish to fry", since it almost never happens in real life. I'm sure if you search back, you can find a more detailed explaination somewhere. But I think the root of the situation is that leagues are setup to be DH or non-DH and they operate strictly as one or the other.

[Mancandy]

Originally Posted by TribeFanInNC

You can not put the DH in the field in OOTP. It's one of the quirks that Markus has never programmed into the game. I think it falls under the category of "bigger fish to fry", since it almost never happens in real life. I'm sure if you search back, you can find a more detailed explaination somewhere. But I think the root of the situation is that leagues are setup to be DH or non-DH and they operate strictly as one or the other.

Actually, you can. It was inplimented either last year or the year before. I know that the first year it was in the game, it would sometimes cause freezes or crashes, but I've done it several times this year without issue.

Originally Posted by JBuck814366460

I've had a couple interesting games playing as the Anaheim Angels tonight. In two separate games, a position player got injured and due to my lack of depth on the bench, I had to put the DH into the field and let the pitcher bat in order to continue. Both times though, the game seems to have had issues with me slotting the pitcher into the spot vacated by the injured position player with the DH in the field replacing the injured position player. First time it happened the game automatically took Mike Trout out of the game while i was trying to move Trout from left to center field to replace an injured Peter Bourjos, and then put Mark Trumbo in Left field (he being the DH usually). this left me with no choice but to put a fielder from the bench playing out of position.

Second time it happened was an injury to Albert Pujols after Pujols had a base hit, he hurt himself rounding the bases and had to be taken out. I put a pinch runner in, expecting to put Trumbo at 1B, but after the inning the game would not let me put the pitcher in the spot vacated by Pujols and the pinch runner, which led to weirdness involving the pinchrunner staying in the game to pitch.

Am I doing something wrong here with the placing of the DH into the field and putting the pitcher in the batting order? If this is a bug I've encountered I want to make the developers aware of it.

Jared

I have a theory. Keep in mnd that it is just that, a theory, but it's consistent with my experiences and could help explain the issues you've been having.

When you go to put the DH into the game, it automatically inserts the pitcher into the slot previously filled by the position to which you're moving the DH. In your first scenario, when you moved Trumbo to LF, was Trout still listed as the LF? If so, I think that would explain why the pitcher replaced him. And even if you had already moved him to CF, the game may have still recognized him as the LF since he was the last player listed at that position, not the blank spot vacated by the injured player. In the future, I would recommend moving the DH first to the position filled by the injured player(ie, move Trumbo from DH to CF), I think the pitcher should then fill the appropriate spot and you can swap any players as necessary. And in your second example, I'm not clear on exactly what the end result was, but it sounds like the game was likely confused by the listing of a PR (or the player not having a position) and it didn't know where to put the pitcher. In the future, I would recommend moving the PR to the position filled by the injured player(put the PR at 1B in this case) before you try to move the DH there.

In any situation, just keep in mind that the pitcher is going to take the place of the player listed at the position where you're moving the DH(again, this is just my theory, but it looks like that's how it works), so make sure the positions are lined up before you move the DH and it should work fine.

[The Game]

Moving the DH into the field and having the P replace him is new in 14. It is not a part of 13.

[Mancandy]

Originally Posted by The Game

Moving the DH into the field and having the P replace him is new in 14. It is not a part of 13.

No, it is not new in 14 and it is a part of 13. Like I said, it was there last year but sometimes doing so caused the game to crash so I tried to avoid it, while I've had no such problems this year.