Conversion from 13 and young prospects

[HH20xx convert]

I am very cautious converting my favorite league to each new version, and like to know what to expect on conversion, hence my question below.

14 changed how draft prospects are projected, reducing (or maybe eliminating) the built-in ratings decay from prior versions of OOTP. I hope others will share their experiences with how 14 converted the ratings of young prospects already in the minor leagues when the league is converted.

I see a few possibilities--

1- Projected ratings are immediately dropped to how they would have been shown in 14 had they been generated there, and development is identical with players generated in 14.

2- Projected ratings decay for these prospects just like they would have in prior versions.

3- Something between 1 and 2 above, splitting the difference to some degree.

4- Very unlikely, but I will state it--the inflated ratings from 13 become the real projections in 14, so prospects generated in 13 are vastly superior to those generated in 14 and many years will have to be simmed to remove this problem. I really hope this isn't the case.

I would sure appreciate folks taking the time to share their experiences with this specific issue. Thanks.

[Fyrestorm3]

I've been doing some experiments that I will eventually post in the other thread discussing this topic, but your question is extremely relevant to one of the tests I did, so I'll post it here:


I saved an OOTP13 game with the draft pool already revealed, and then imported that game into '14. There were some significant variances between the two (supposedly identical) draft pools, but the perceived talent distribution remained about the same overall. I took over the same team in both the OOTP13 league and the OOTP14 imported league, and drafted the same six players: four of them rated higher in '13 than in '14, one the inverse, and one rated identical.

They all behaved EXACTLY the same way when it came to signing - each one signed with me on the same day in both versions. Including one dude named Jenkins, who held out so long I was forced to edit him onto the team in both games. I then simmed until the next year, so the worldwide re-scout would take effect, and to give the players enough time in my system for the inevitable Ratings drop in OOTP13 to kick in. As expected, in OOTP14, the changes in ratings were very minimal, if there were any at all. In OOTP13, two players took a ratings hit. Everyone else was still rated the same (~3 Stars potential across the board).

Finally, I simmed forward, stopping every couple of years to check the progress of my draftees. Five years later, and the difference in their ratings between the games was small enough to be chalked up to variations in scouting. After 15 years, I took a look back on their careers, and their numbers were remarkably similar. The stud pitching prospect rated highly in both games became the anchor of his team; a couple never made it to the bigs in either game; the rest were scrubs. This was constant between both versions.

So, it's a small sample size, but I can say confidently that NO, the ratings changes regarding prospects in OOTP14 do not affect players already in the league when it's imported. You'll simply see more disappointments in '13, as prospects are, on the whole, given a higher potential rating than in '14. But they still perform to their abilities regardless.

Once I've done a couple more experiments in this regard, I'll be posting my findings in this thread, along with screenshots for documentation.

[HH20xx convert]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

I've been doing some experiments that I will eventually post in the other thread discussing this topic, but your question is extremely relevant to one of the tests I did, so I'll post it here:


I saved an OOTP13 game with the draft pool already revealed, and then imported that game into '14. There were some significant variances between the two (supposedly identical) draft pools, but the perceived talent distribution remained about the same overall. I took over the same team in both the OOTP13 league and the OOTP14 imported league, and drafted the same six players: four of them rated higher in '13 than in '14, one the inverse, and one rated identical.

They all behaved EXACTLY the same way when it came to signing - each one signed with me on the same day in both versions. Including one dude named Jenkins, who held out so long I was forced to edit him onto the team in both games. I then simmed until the next year, so the worldwide re-scout would take effect, and to give the players enough time in my system for the inevitable Ratings drop in OOTP13 to kick in. As expected, in OOTP14, the changes in ratings were very minimal, if there were any at all. In OOTP13, two players took a ratings hit. Everyone else was still rated the same (~3 Stars potential across the board).

Finally, I simmed forward, stopping every couple of years to check the progress of my draftees. Five years later, and the difference in their ratings between the games was small enough to be chalked up to variations in scouting. After 15 years, I took a look back on their careers, and their numbers were remarkably similar. The stud pitching prospect rated highly in both games became the anchor of his team; a couple never made it to the bigs in either game; the rest were scrubs. This was constant between both versions.

So, it's a small sample size, but I can say confidently that NO, the ratings changes regarding prospects in OOTP14 do not affect players already in the league when it's imported. You'll simply see more disappointments in '13, as prospects are, on the whole, given a higher potential rating than in '14. But they still perform to their abilities regardless.

Once I've done a couple more experiments in this regard, I'll be posting my findings in this thread, along with screenshots for documentation.

I started a separate thread because my topic was the development of existing players, not the quality of drafted players in 14, so I thought it best not to divert things over there. Thank you for the feedback, and I will be following both threads and look forward to your results.