Running A Fictional Historical Sim

zroberts1991 · 04-23-2013, 06:34 AM

Hey Im trying to run a historical sim with fictional players. Do any of you stay true to the rules of the earlier eras and have no free agency or amateur draft. And no affiliated minor leagues either? And if so does it work out for you still, is the game able to still work decently?

The Game · 04-23-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by zroberts1991

Hey Im trying to run a historical sim with fictional players. Do any of you stay true to the rules of the earlier eras and have no free agency or amateur draft. And no affiliated minor leagues either? And if so does it work out for you still, is the game able to still work decently?

The way I setup my historical league which i have been doing since 11 is I started in 1871. I have a WS every year. I do the Ammy draft each November. Once I go it on 12 I switched to Reserve Clause around 1898.
I am thinking about redoing the league on 14. So i can take advantage of the logos and uniforms automatically changing. Plus I have used both Spritz & Gambo DB's so i had a few duplicate players. I use the PCL for AAA. In the new version I am going to use many of the uniforms/teams from txranger's thread. I left off in 1916 and overall I am happy although my White Sox since 1882 have dominated. 25 WS appearances 14 wins.
My current team while stacked is nothing compared to the 1898-1908 teams.
Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Rogers Hornsby, Walter Johnson, Shoeless Joe, Buck Weaver, Chick Gandil, Ray Schalk to name a few.

zroberts1991 · 04-23-2013, 11:17 PM

Has anyone else ran leagues without using an amateur draft. Did it in 13 and ran pretty well but in 14 it'll just create an overload of stars at the exact age i set as the maximum for player creation.

Lafayette53 · 04-23-2013, 11:48 PM

I am having a blast running a fictional historical league where I only simmed from 1901-1968 before taking over a team. I set it up by importing the historical teams in 1901, releasing/deleting all the real players, editing the country to use the US Historical nameset, and filling the teams with fictional counterparts. From 1901-1960 I didn't have an amateur draft and teams just gobbled up free agents, but when I added a third level of minors this was giving the league a bit of talent inflation so I switched to a draft. Until 1965 I hit randomize before the draft to help out the stronger teams.

I added minors when they became standardized in real life (late-20's IIRC) and didn't bother setting up a manually implemented independent minors system or anything similar. Its doable, but I'm going to wait for retirement before putting that much work into the game.

It works reasonably well and you can explain the fully developed stars randomly appearing with real life examples like Lefty Grove, who came from the more established part of the minors pretty developed. The teams I made strongest financially (Yankees, Dodgers, Giants, and Cardinals) were pretty good at grabbing the premium talent and there have been some pretty solid dynasties.

I'm currently in 1974 in my 6th Season as GM of the A's and funnily enough I just beat the Mets in the World Series to capture the franchises first title since 1950. The reserve-clause is still on, but free agency is on the horizon, the DH has arrived, and when free agency hits I'm going to have to let a bunch of stars go to stay under budget not unlike the real life A's in this period.

OOTP still has a lot of issues/omissions when simulating the early years, but I'd say its actually easier to do than ever when I think back to doing it by messing around with OOTPX and the nations file.

04-23-2013, 06:34 AM	#1
zroberts1991 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 216	Running A Fictional Historical Sim Hey Im trying to run a historical sim with fictional players. Do any of you stay true to the rules of the earlier eras and have no free agency or amateur draft. And no affiliated minor leagues either? And if so does it work out for you still, is the game able to still work decently?

04-23-2013, 11:17 PM	#3
zroberts1991 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 216	Has anyone else ran leagues without using an amateur draft. Did it in 13 and ran pretty well but in 14 it'll just create an overload of stars at the exact age i set as the maximum for player creation.

04-23-2013, 11:48 PM	#4
Lafayette53 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 346	I am having a blast running a fictional historical league where I only simmed from 1901-1968 before taking over a team. I set it up by importing the historical teams in 1901, releasing/deleting all the real players, editing the country to use the US Historical nameset, and filling the teams with fictional counterparts. From 1901-1960 I didn't have an amateur draft and teams just gobbled up free agents, but when I added a third level of minors this was giving the league a bit of talent inflation so I switched to a draft. Until 1965 I hit randomize before the draft to help out the stronger teams. I added minors when they became standardized in real life (late-20's IIRC) and didn't bother setting up a manually implemented independent minors system or anything similar. Its doable, but I'm going to wait for retirement before putting that much work into the game. It works reasonably well and you can explain the fully developed stars randomly appearing with real life examples like Lefty Grove, who came from the more established part of the minors pretty developed. The teams I made strongest financially (Yankees, Dodgers, Giants, and Cardinals) were pretty good at grabbing the premium talent and there have been some pretty solid dynasties. I'm currently in 1974 in my 6th Season as GM of the A's and funnily enough I just beat the Mets in the World Series to capture the franchises first title since 1950. The reserve-clause is still on, but free agency is on the horizon, the DH has arrived, and when free agency hits I'm going to have to let a bunch of stars go to stay under budget not unlike the real life A's in this period. OOTP still has a lot of issues/omissions when simulating the early years, but I'd say its actually easier to do than ever when I think back to doing it by messing around with OOTPX and the nations file.