How to quicken the recovery time of pitchers.

waitwut · 04-19-2013, 07:00 PM

I've noticed my starters sometimes won't be rested 100% despite them pitching normal amounts of innings the previous start and not going into extreme tiredness, and waiting the normal 5 days between starts. The same goes for relievers where they will take longer to be 100% rested than I'm used too. How do you lower the recovery time, I'm not sure what settings govern that.

The Game · 04-19-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by waitwut

I've noticed my starters sometimes won't be rested 100% despite them pitching normal amounts of innings the previous start and not going into extreme tiredness, and waiting the normal 5 days between starts. The same goes for relievers where they will take longer to be 100% rested than I'm used too. How do you lower the recovery time, I'm not sure what settings govern that.

2 places i can think of. League Setup - Global Setup, you change change the fatigue. then On League setup Strategy you can change the pitcher stamina. i use Nomal for leagues except 1995 timeframe to today.

waitwut · 04-20-2013, 01:33 AM

Hmm, ok. I just don't want to elongate how long they can last in a a given outing because that is fine. Its just that they don't recover so fast. But I guess if making them last longer is the only way to do it then I have no choice.

The Game · 04-20-2013, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by waitwut

Hmm, ok. I just don't want to elongate how long they can last in a a given outing because that is fine. Its just that they don't recover so fast. But I guess if making them last longer is the only way to do it then I have no choice.

How long are you talking? Modern era 5 days and they are still tired after 5 days? MR used in back to back games 25-30 pitches should be good to go 2 days later.
Could be a bug in 14.

Ts-Rock · 04-20-2013, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Game

How long are you talking? Modern era 5 days and they are still tired after 5 days? MR used in back to back games 25-30 pitches should be good to go 2 days later.
Could be a bug in 14.

if you play with coaches than your trainer has a lot to do with pitching fatigue/recovery as does a pitchers stamina to an extent (i believe)

waitwut · 04-20-2013, 01:59 AM

Also, would making the new setting 1.050 lengthen the pitcher fatigue or do I want to do .950? I forget what does what :/

waitwut · 04-20-2013, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Game

How long are you talking? Modern era 5 days and they are still tired after 5 days? MR used in back to back games 25-30 pitches should be good to go 2 days later.
Could be a bug in 14.

Yeah, its modern era pitching. I'm playing the MLB quickstart and both fatigue is at 1.000. My SP's not good to go after 5 days and MR's still tired after 2 days.

The Game · 04-20-2013, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ts-Rock

if you play with coaches than your trainer has a lot to do with pitching fatigue/recovery as does a pitchers stamina to an extent (i believe)

I havent heard that but it makes sense. I tend to always go after the best trainer, I rarely have the best HC, PC or BC.

waitwut · 04-20-2013, 02:11 AM

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I havent heard that but it makes sense. I tend to always go after the best trainer, I rarely have the best HC, PC or BC.

Point taken. My trainer has only a "decent" rating at fatigue recovery.

The Game · 04-20-2013, 02:14 AM

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Point taken. My trainer has only a "decent" rating at fatigue recovery.

My trainer in one league is a world renowned surgeon, another is Herm Schnieder and the Sox rank last (approx) in time spend on the DL the last 5 yrs. and my other was a FA who was the best in recovery and heal arms. Makes more then any coach. 3.5 mil x 7 yrs.

MizzouRah · 04-20-2013, 02:21 AM

We spoke about this in great length over in the v13 forum awhile back.

The default stamina setting for modern day is "low".

If you keep at "low", then some pitchers do not show as 100% rested after 4 days rest.

You can change this setting to "normal" and that fixes that issue, the problem then is - complete games go through the roof.

I went back to "low" as complete games were realistic even though some pitchers do not show 100% rested after 4 days rest.

Seems like it could be a bug.. but I haven't noticed any big difference using pitchers at say, 85% rested.

waitwut · 04-20-2013, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

We spoke about this in great length over in the v13 forum awhile back.

The default stamina setting for modern day is "low".

If you keep at "low", then some pitchers do not show as 100% rested after 4 days rest.

You can change this setting to "normal" and that fixes that issue, the problem then is - complete games go through the roof.

I went back to "low" as complete games were realistic even though some pitchers do not show 100% rested after 4 days rest.

Seems like it could be a bug.. but I haven't noticed any big difference using pitchers at say, 85% rested.

I never had this problem in 13. Usually it would only happen if I had a guy throw 120+ pitches and I felt that made sense.

Ts-Rock · 04-20-2013, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by waitwut

Point taken. My trainer has only a "decent" rating at fatigue recovery.

there you go. I can for a fact say that trainers play a role in pitcher/player fatigue. In our Online league (BSA) we play hidden ratings and full coaches and you can tell who has a good trainer and who doesn't.

Also, in OOTP once a SP gets over 80% energy he is consider "rested", your basic trainer will get your average SP back to the 80% floor, but if you have a SP with like a 7-10 stamina (1-20 scale) then he might struggle to hit the 80% rest floor on a normal 5-man (4 rest days) rotation.

Mister_G · 04-20-2013, 03:30 AM

How many people are starting pitchers with a 7-10 stamina rating? If you are, I would assume that would be the problem. I only start pitchers with 6 at the very least on a 1-10 scale.

Ts-Rock · 04-20-2013, 03:48 AM

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How many people are starting pitchers with a 7-10 stamina rating? If you are, I would assume that would be the problem. I only start pitchers with 6 at the very least on a 1-10 scale.

Personally I don't like going below the 50% mark (10 on 1-20 scale), but I've seen it work with some great success. 1st guy I thought of was Donald Manning in our online league BSA. The guy has been uber elite most of his career with only a 6 stamina!

I also saw two rookie (in 2012 draft) SP in my ootp13 MLB quick start that had single digit stamina and were All-Stars.

The Game · 04-20-2013, 04:11 PM

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How many people are starting pitchers with a 7-10 stamina rating? If you are, I would assume that would be the problem. I only start pitchers with 6 at the very least on a 1-10 scale.

My #4 has a 4 STA (1-10) (4 man rotation) but he is lucky to go more then 6. I haven't skipped my #4 in 2 weeks, I rarely use my SP if they are not fully rested unless its the playoffs when I drop down to 3.

04-19-2013, 07:00 PM	#1
waitwut Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 65	How to quicken the recovery time of pitchers. I've noticed my starters sometimes won't be rested 100% despite them pitching normal amounts of innings the previous start and not going into extreme tiredness, and waiting the normal 5 days between starts. The same goes for relievers where they will take longer to be 100% rested than I'm used too. How do you lower the recovery time, I'm not sure what settings govern that.

04-20-2013, 03:30 AM	#14
Mister_G All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 576	How many people are starting pitchers with a 7-10 stamina rating? If you are, I would assume that would be the problem. I only start pitchers with 6 at the very least on a 1-10 scale. __________________ A man doesn't make mistakes, mistakes make the man @MisterG90

04-20-2013, 01:33 AM	#3
waitwut Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 65	Hmm, ok. I just don't want to elongate how long they can last in a a given outing because that is fine. Its just that they don't recover so fast. But I guess if making them last longer is the only way to do it then I have no choice.

04-20-2013, 01:59 AM	#6
waitwut Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 65	Also, would making the new setting 1.050 lengthen the pitcher fatigue or do I want to do .950? I forget what does what :/

04-20-2013, 02:21 AM	#11
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,266	We spoke about this in great length over in the v13 forum awhile back. The default stamina setting for modern day is "low". If you keep at "low", then some pitchers do not show as 100% rested after 4 days rest. You can change this setting to "normal" and that fixes that issue, the problem then is - complete games go through the roof. I went back to "low" as complete games were realistic even though some pitchers do not show 100% rested after 4 days rest. Seems like it could be a bug.. but I haven't noticed any big difference using pitchers at say, 85% rested.