Question about potential

Hockey13Playa · 04-10-2013, 03:18 PM

Hey everyone! Curious as to how potential works in iOOTP. For example I'm the Boston Red Sox and my CF prospect Jackie Bradley JR. has a 4.5 star potential with a current 1 star rating. He's 23 years old and I called him up for 2 games to play in the majors. Is there a way to ruin/improve there potential and or overall ratings? Curious as to what factors play a role in this.

Also... In my minor league roster I see some players with green arrows, what does that mean?

Thanks for the help!

ms2002 · 04-10-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockey13Playa

Hey everyone! Curious as to how potential works in iOOTP. For example I'm the Boston Red Sox and my CF prospect Jackie Bradley JR. has a 4.5 star potential with a current 1 star rating. He's 23 years old and I called him up for 2 games to play in the majors. Is there a way to ruin/improve there potential and or overall ratings? Curious as to what factors play a role in this.

Also... In my minor league roster I see some players with green arrows, what does that mean?

Thanks for the help!

OOTP players largely reach their potential based on luck. However, injuries, morale and the debut dates can play a factor. For example, if you debut a player too early, there's a chance it will stunt their ability to reach their potential. In the PC version of OOTP, there are even more factors involved.

The Green Arrow is there to help notify when a player is ready for the big leagues. Chances are, if you see this arrow, it's safe to call them up without stunting their development.

Hockey13Playa · 04-10-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ms2002

OOTP players largely reach their potential based on luck. However, injuries, morale and the debut dates can play a factor. For example, if you debut a player too early, there's a chance it will stunt their ability to reach their potential. In the PC version of OOTP, there are even more factors involved.

The Green Arrow is there to help notify when a player is ready for the big leagues. Chances are, if you see this arrow, it's safe to call them up without stunting their development.

Awesome, thanks for the feedback! This game is like crack! Got a franchise going with the Red Sox on my iPhone and a franchise with the Pirates on my iPad! I may have to pick up OOTP14 too, I am addicted!

magicspeedo · 04-10-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ms2002

OOTP players largely reach their potential based on luck. However, injuries, morale and the debut dates can play a factor. For example, if you debut a player too early, there's a chance it will stunt their ability to reach their potential. In the PC version of OOTP, there are even more factors involved.

The Green Arrow is there to help notify when a player is ready for the big leagues. Chances are, if you see this arrow, it's safe to call them up without stunting their development.

Wrong, except about playing them too early, but even then some players push through it.

Players reach their potential playing for a good team. Some players will never reach their potential. Some players will overachieve. And some players will get hurt. But most of the time a player playing for a perennial playoff team will reach his potential. The goal is to build your farm so that you can reload EVERY season with top prospects who are ready for game time. Once you get the system going, its pretty much plug and play with prospects.

That being said, sometimes a player's potential seems to go down when in fact it did not. What happened is a better prospect has come out.

magicspeedo · 04-10-2013, 03:47 PM

double post. sorrrrrryyy

Hockey13Playa · 04-10-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by magicspeedo

Wrong, except about playing them too early, but even then some players push through it.

Players reach their potential playing for a good team. Some players will never reach their potential. Some players will overachieve. And some players will get hurt. But most of the time a player playing for a perennial playoff team will reach his potential. The goal is to build your farm so that you can reload EVERY season with top prospects who are ready for game time. Once you get the system going, its pretty much plug and play with prospects.

That being said, sometimes a player's potential seems to go down when in fact it did not. What happened is a better prospect has come out.

Thanks for this info as well! While on topic of prospects, you cannot trade draft picks correct?

Dkelley · 04-10-2013, 05:25 PM

Is there any other ways to help rookies develop better? That would be helpful to know as most of my rookies never develop, sometimes they sit in the minors, with no green arrow, and when I call them up and I am a winning team they don't perform well. Also sometimes their potential goes down. Another thing is that when some of my starters (in the lineup) or pitchers start doing good, their rating suddenly goes down, even though their stats are really good.

Sebastian Palkowski · 04-10-2013, 05:33 PM

How good (or bad) a team is has no influence on a player to reach his potential. Why would it?

Hockey13Playa · 04-10-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

How good (or bad) a team is has no influence on a player to reach his potential. Why would it?

Well Mr. Sebastian care to enlighten us on what factors do? Pretty please!

magicspeedo · 04-11-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Palkowski

How good (or bad) a team is has no influence on a player to reach his potential. Why would it?

You are the developer so I'm sure it's not specifically coded that way....yet are you saying a guy who never hits higher than .210 but has 20/20 contact potential will reach his full potential in contact? That seems odd.

ms2002 · 04-11-2013, 03:25 PM

If you'd like more info about OOTP's player development engine, check here:

Out of the Park Baseball Manual

Obviously some factors aren't in iOOTP, but this will likely give you a better explanation. Like Sebastian said, being on a successful team doesn't really have a direct effect.

McGuiser · 04-12-2013, 01:47 PM

"How good (or bad) a team is has no influence on a player to reach his potential. Why would it?"

I think that pitchers do develop better on good teams. A pitcher with good defense behind him should end up with batter stats, for example, and I assume (wrongly?) that having better performance stats means an upward tweak in ratings.

Wouldn't a fabulously defensive shortstop prevent a couple of hits a game at least? More double plays should reduce at-bats, and therefore lower WHIP.

The corollary is that a pitcher on a team with terrible defense will give up more hits (due to fielders' limited range), have a worse WHIP and ERA, and presumably that will pressure his ratings downward.

On the other hand it is possible that the occasional changed rating is all random and not based on game performance. Your thinking on this?

04-10-2013, 03:18 PM	#1
Hockey13Playa Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,677	Question about potential Hey everyone! Curious as to how potential works in iOOTP. For example I'm the Boston Red Sox and my CF prospect Jackie Bradley JR. has a 4.5 star potential with a current 1 star rating. He's 23 years old and I called him up for 2 games to play in the majors. Is there a way to ruin/improve there potential and or overall ratings? Curious as to what factors play a role in this. Also... In my minor league roster I see some players with green arrows, what does that mean? Thanks for the help!

04-10-2013, 03:47 PM	#5
magicspeedo Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2011 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 240	double post. sorrrrrryyy Last edited by magicspeedo; 04-10-2013 at 03:49 PM.

04-10-2013, 05:33 PM	#8
Sebastian Palkowski Developer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 5,552	How good (or bad) a team is has no influence on a player to reach his potential. Why would it? __________________ Buy Franchise Hockey Manager

04-12-2013, 01:47 PM	#12
McGuiser Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 363	Pitchers might benefit from good teams "How good (or bad) a team is has no influence on a player to reach his potential. Why would it?" I think that pitchers do develop better on good teams. A pitcher with good defense behind him should end up with batter stats, for example, and I assume (wrongly?) that having better performance stats means an upward tweak in ratings. Wouldn't a fabulously defensive shortstop prevent a couple of hits a game at least? More double plays should reduce at-bats, and therefore lower WHIP. The corollary is that a pitcher on a team with terrible defense will give up more hits (due to fielders' limited range), have a worse WHIP and ERA, and presumably that will pressure his ratings downward. On the other hand it is possible that the occasional changed rating is all random and not based on game performance. Your thinking on this?

04-10-2013, 05:25 PM	#7
Dkelley Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 188	Is there any other ways to help rookies develop better? That would be helpful to know as most of my rookies never develop, sometimes they sit in the minors, with no green arrow, and when I call them up and I am a winning team they don't perform well. Also sometimes their potential goes down. Another thing is that when some of my starters (in the lineup) or pitchers start doing good, their rating suddenly goes down, even though their stats are really good.

04-11-2013, 03:25 PM	#11
ms2002 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,493	If you'd like more info about OOTP's player development engine, check here: Out of the Park Baseball Manual Obviously some factors aren't in iOOTP, but this will likely give you a better explanation. Like Sebastian said, being on a successful team doesn't really have a direct effect.