Velocity Rating

Bledsoe · 02-03-2003, 12:17 AM

I've played this game awhile and I still can't figure out what the point of the velocity rating is. If there is a separate rating for Strikeouts, what does velocity affect?

koohead · 02-03-2003, 12:25 AM

I believe it only affects the play by play...so the pbp text will display the speed/velocity of the pitches.

Bledsoe · 02-03-2003, 12:26 AM

If this is true, why would anybody train velocity in spring training?

twins15 · 02-03-2003, 01:01 AM

Just a guees, but if he has slower velocity and slower pitches, then his talent in avoiding hits might drop, his talent in getting k's might drop, etc.

MannyTrillo · 02-03-2003, 01:08 AM

I think putting lots of points into velocity in spring training would tend to increase your K rating, but it probably doesn't have any relationship with the purely cosmetic velocity rating that you see on the player cards.

That's a good point though- maybe the name of the spring training category should be changed to avoid confusion about this.

Nukester · 02-03-2003, 12:00 PM

I've also noticed (although unofficially) that my better stikeout pitchers (in solo historical league)are the ones with higher velocity.

Markus Heinsohn · 02-03-2003, 12:02 PM

In OOTP 5 this rating is also used in the player development algorythm. I.e., when you have a guy throwing real hard but has a low talent level in Ks or Hits, he has a better chance of "putting it together" than pitchers who do not throw hard.

Kelric · 02-23-2003, 06:02 PM

Just to dig up an old thread since I was being curious...

In OOTP4 right now in my online league we have spring training coming up.

I have a lot of young pitchers, and a couple of guys in the majors who have cannons and 8 and 9s in velocity. With it being that high, if I take away all 5 points in ST and add it to something else, is it really going to make much of a difference in his ratings and performance?

Jetfanmack · 02-23-2003, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by Markus Heinsohn
In OOTP 5 this rating is also used in the player development algorythm. I.e., when you have a guy throwing real hard but has a low talent level in Ks or Hits, he has a better chance of "putting it together" than pitchers who do not throw hard.

Yea that's what I thought it did, because I would always try to get guys like Justin Pope who threw really hard and I hoped would go up in ratings.

webspinnre · 02-24-2003, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelric
Just to dig up an old thread since I was being curious...

In OOTP4 right now in my online league we have spring training coming up.

I have a lot of young pitchers, and a couple of guys in the majors who have cannons and 8 and 9s in velocity. With it being that high, if I take away all 5 points in ST and add it to something else, is it really going to make much of a difference in his ratings and performance?

I'm not sure I'd go and take away all 5, but its fairly common for me to take 2 points of guys like that if they need a boost in a particular area.

Michael Xavier · 02-24-2003, 03:33 AM

I am not absolutely sure the importance of the stat, but I will draft or pick up young lesser rated pitchers who are poor or fair in the avoiding hits department, but have good velocity, because I read an essay in one of Bill James' books, where he detailed the long term success of hard throwers in comparison to lets say a knuckle-baller.

I call it my Wild-Thing Production System.

02-03-2003, 12:17 AM	#1
Bledsoe Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 104	Velocity Rating I've played this game awhile and I still can't figure out what the point of the velocity rating is. If there is a separate rating for Strikeouts, what does velocity affect?

02-03-2003, 12:25 AM	#2
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,233	I believe it only affects the play by play...so the pbp text will display the speed/velocity of the pitches. __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

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MannyTrillo All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 664	I think putting lots of points into velocity in spring training would tend to increase your K rating, but it probably doesn't have any relationship with the purely cosmetic velocity rating that you see on the player cards. That's a good point though- maybe the name of the spring training category should be changed to avoid confusion about this. __________________ Poster emeritus "Not butchery, dining!!" obt sk cmh ct President, A-1 Aces OT Posting Club Click here to join

02-24-2003, 03:33 AM	#11
Michael Xavier Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 456	I am not absolutely sure the importance of the stat, but I will draft or pick up young lesser rated pitchers who are poor or fair in the avoiding hits department, but have good velocity, because I read an essay in one of Bill James' books, where he detailed the long term success of hard throwers in comparison to lets say a knuckle-baller. I call it my Wild-Thing Production System. __________________ OOTP since March 2002

02-03-2003, 12:26 AM	#3
Bledsoe Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 104	If this is true, why would anybody train velocity in spring training?

02-03-2003, 12:00 PM	#6
Nukester All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newburgh, NY Posts: 1,923	I've also noticed (although unofficially) that my better stikeout pitchers (in solo historical league)are the ones with higher velocity.

02-03-2003, 12:02 PM	#7
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	In OOTP 5 this rating is also used in the player development algorythm. I.e., when you have a guy throwing real hard but has a low talent level in Ks or Hits, he has a better chance of "putting it together" than pitchers who do not throw hard.

02-23-2003, 06:02 PM	#8
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	Just to dig up an old thread since I was being curious... In OOTP4 right now in my online league we have spring training coming up. I have a lot of young pitchers, and a couple of guys in the majors who have cannons and 8 and 9s in velocity. With it being that high, if I take away all 5 points in ST and add it to something else, is it really going to make much of a difference in his ratings and performance?